Becky, I'm with you. I'm not giving up just yet. I admit the thought crossed my mind after this summer, but I'll try the winter gardening and see what happens. Besides I already have the tomato and pepper plants ready to go into Earthboxes. I may even try cucumbers again ... I got a few in the Spring before the mildew or whatever it was got the vines. And since I had moderate success with broccoli and cauliflower, I'll definitely do those again. Now I'm wondering about Erika ... hopefully she doesn't throw a monkey wrench into our plans.