Lyn, you've really got me thinking now- thanks! Very interesting, and what I'm seeing is making sense. Also reminds me I need to get back into trying Austins again. I'd stopped during the RRD epidemic years in my garden, and had tried too few to get a good idea of them.
I've been browsing sources for grafted Austin roses.
My Golden Fairy Tale is free standing, and is reminding me of an octopus.
Thanks, Cindi. Do you grow Westerland and Autumn Sunset on trellises?