Trouble for me is that Keith doesn't get the SDBs. Barry is not really dealing with those any more (probably the usual 'don't sell'). It is really a shame because we have him to thank for the modern pink SDBs. He noticed the orange in the throat on one of Ben Hager's SDBs & worked for years with that line coming up with pinks (which is a recessive) especially 'Chanted'.
Dave Hall in IL started doing the good work with TB pinks in the 1940s & was once accused of painting his irises that color at an exhibition by the newspapers.