DogsNDaylilies, the name of the person I was referring to as having a lot of heirloom daylilies is Lavere Webster. (not sure I spelled his first name right) He is the one that was able to I.D. the heirloom Stout seedling that I posted on here. He has a very old daylily catalog and the picture of this seedling was on the front cover of the catalog. He offered to sell me a couple of fans of the real Magic Dawn and I just never got around to getting that one.