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Mar 11, 2022 1:39 AM CST
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Mar 11, 2022 9:55 AM CST
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Mar 11, 2022 12:11 PM CST
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"How can I post photos of pacific coast native Iris growing in the wild which are".... what? You have posted 80 photos to the DB so that's not the question.

Iris douglasiana
Species Iris (Iris douglasiana)
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Mar 11, 2022 12:59 PM CST
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Mar 14, 2022 12:53 AM CST
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Sorry Sue, my bad. These are wild PCI's so I don't know the exact scientific name (unless all wild PCN Iris are Iris Douglasiana?). I'm still new to PCI's, so a lot more to learn.
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Mar 14, 2022 11:09 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Species Iris Douglasiana is a native to coastal grasslands. There are lots of cultivars but then they aren't the wild species anymore. The species is the beginning point. Put your photos here:

Species Iris (Iris douglasiana)

Distribution map here:

https://calscape.org/Iris-doug...)
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Mar 14, 2022 12:02 PM CST
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Mar 15, 2022 4:34 AM CST
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Daisy, I'm a little confused by your reply. My confusion was your use of the term "they aren't the wild species anymore"? Are they not still the same genus and species as the progenitor, the 'wild parents'? In reality, wouldn't all PCI cultivars that are being registered also be 'inclusive' under the page for I douglasiana? The only reason to have separate pages here and on other forums like AIS encyclopedia is to assist us in being able to differentiate variants which is helpful from a historical perspective and also preference if one is inclined to grow a particular hybrid for it's bloom color, particular growth characteristics, etc. Am I still confused and misguided? Thanks so much, and I'm sorry for any confusion, and or headaches I may have caused by not thinking this through and doing more homework before posting my query.
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Mar 15, 2022 8:49 AM CST
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Just the cultivars, the plants "raised in cultivation which differ sufficiently from their wild ancestors or, if taken into cultivation from the wild, are worthy enough of distinction from wild populations for horticultural purposes to merit special names"

So (I think) Daisy meant that yes, they are still the same genus and species, she was just adding that there are so many cultivars now. And if their names are unknown, yes, they would still be added to the main species. Yours were photographed in the wild so of course they belong under the species entry.

Here is a Calif. species list I found, click on any of the names to see several photos, such the wide variety of looks within the species, easy to see how confusing it can be!
https://calscape.org/loc-Calif...
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Mar 15, 2022 11:29 AM CST
Name: Daisy I
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Thank you for clarifying Sue. I didn't realize what I wrote might be confusing. The Calscape link you posted is the one I though I had posted, at least its were I started.
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Mar 15, 2022 1:35 PM CST
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Sorry, this thread has gone way longer than necessary and I apologize if I wasn't appreciative enough to all of you for bringing clarity to my query. I just want to add one final thought. I wonder how complete the resources currently available today have been trying to photograph every wild species of PCN Iris? And wouldn't it be awesome if those that are known and recognizable also get cultivar names to distinguish the various wild specimens? Looking at the page of I douglasiana with the wide range of colors and differences makes it abundantly clear that if you were looking for a particular specimen, you might need to scroll through quite a few options. And lastly, we have a couple of PCN's that appeared under some of our bushes years after we moved in that have the appearance of the progenitor/ wild, native species, but since they are in two separate locations, one in the front and the other in the rear, I can only assume that they were plucked from the wild, propagated and planted here, or were a cultivar hybridized by someone like Joseph over 25 years ago? It really doesn't matter, because in the end when they bloom they light up the yard with their unique, magnificent beauty. Although the blooms are small, they pack a punch and make quite an impressive statement. (The reason we didn't notice them years ago is they are growing within, next to Salvia and Lobelia plants and unless I prune them down, the PCI's are completely hidden and the blooms are unable to form due to lack of sun. I pruned the bushes hard last fall, and the PCI's are really standing out strong, so I'm hopeful I will have photos next month to add to the site).
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