I am growing some Gasterias, Haworthias for many years and recently I have added a few more Aloes, or? The local nurseries are selling some really pretty plants, unfortunately very rarely do they come with a name. ( except Sempervivums. ) I was hoping the super knowledgeable people here might help me out, it is about time that I know a bit more what exactly I am growing here.
Hopefully I have at the least the genus correct....

1. thought this was Aloe





2. also Aloe



3. Mix of Haworthia tuberculata v sublaevis and Gasteria bicolor + piece of Gollum Jade

both tags are quite faded

4. old Gasteria, this is the largest one in this group. should blooms soon as it always does in Summer




5.old Haworthia



6. Gasteria?



7. Haworthia ?



8 Gasteria ? hybrid?



9. Gasteria?



10. Gasteria?



11 and last this old Haworthia


I hope this is ok!

I'm not very good at ID but I recognized some:

Thanks Gigi! The Retro Gang looks good.

You are right everywhere there is a question mark. #8 looks like

Gasteria 'Little Warty'

(check to confirm) and #2 looks like

Aloe 'Christmas Carol'

And for what it's worth, all the Retro Gang aloes have 2 different names, including at least one that's a human name, like Donnie. So in that group you will find the same plant under 2 separate names, and of course this is a source of confusion. Donnie's alter ego is 'Bright Star'. Vito's alter ego is 'Green Sand'. Etc. Hopefully our database allows for either name to be used to arrive at the right entry.

Baja, thanks so much!
How interesting regarding the Retro Gang tm Donnie!

Ursula said: Baja, thanks so much!
How interesting regarding the Retro Gang tm Donnie!

Mine was labeled Donnie when I got it 10+ years ago but now that it looks like a mini-tree, I am going to start calling it mini palm. :whistling:



It looks very happy after I finally gave it its own pot and has already started making babies again.

Gigi, I like it very much! They make for very attractive plants!

Ursula said: Gigi, I like it very much! They make for very attractive plants!

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I think your old haworthia is H. limfolia.
Last one is probably attenuata, which cultivar I am unfamiliar with.

@Ursula
nice plants . Its possible that you first one is another hybrid that i have seen around a lot that is very close to donnie. Not saying this to try to 'look knowledgable' and my methods are subjective and far from scientific (which seems to frustrate people ) This is my opinion nothing more
Donne aka 'bright star' alternates between green and blue depending on stress levels. The leaves also have dimples (like reverse bumps) The bumps are white with a red centre. here is a green and blue leaves from my collection this morning, hopefully you can see the dimples. It also stays small


The other plant stays green, doesnt have the dimples , grows more 'upright' and gets much bigger. I think one of the names the other CV goes by is 'red flame' but its name is far from clear.
All that said the plants are so close it really doesnt matter I am a little obsessed with these hybrids and sort of enjoy the guessing game.
Stefan is correct on haworthia limifolia
The last one is one of the white H.attenuata cv's. I have one bought as 'superwhite' see pic below. I also think there is a very simular one that goes by the cv name 'big band'
Haworthia (Haworthiopsis attenuata 'Super White')
Steve

ketsui73 said: @Ursula
nice plants . Its possible that you first one is another hybrid that i have seen around a lot that is very close to donnie. Not saying this to try to 'look knowledgable' and my methods are subjective and far from scientific (which seems to frustrate people ) This is my opinion nothing more
Donne aka 'bright star' alternates between green and blue depending on stress levels. The leaves also have dimples (like reverse bumps) The bumps are white with a red centre. here is a green and blue leaves from my collection this morning, hopefully you can see the dimples. It also stays small


The other plant stays green, doesnt have the dimples , grows more 'upright' and gets much bigger. I think one of the names the other CV goes by is 'red flame' but its name is far from clear.
All that said the plants are so close it really doesnt matter I am a little obsessed with these hybrids and sort of enjoy the guessing game.
Stefan is correct on haworthia limifolia
The last one is one of the white H.attenuata cv's. I have one bought as 'superwhite' see pic below. I also think there is a very simular one that goes by the cv name 'big band'
Haworthia (Haworthiopsis attenuata 'Super White')
Steve

Uh oh! I went to examine mine, I didn't see any dimple. Was this mislabeled? I've had this for 10 years and was my only aloe for many years.



We've always called this the good ole Donnie. It looks upright, full of buds now.

GigiPlumeria said: Uh oh! I went to examine mine, I didn't see any dimple. Was this mislabeled? I've had this for 10 years and was my only aloe for many years.



We've always called this the good ole Donnie. It looks upright, full of buds now.

For what it's worth I think that looks more like Christmas carol in that pic. CC stays more green and tends to go dark rather than blue when stressed . They tend to have some all red bumps rather than small red with white. You could argue that Donnie tends to be more star like shape but than can be blurred by how you grow it . So really it's only the blue colour that signifies Donnie over cc . These two are really to close and have been around long enough to be crossed multiple times to add to the confusion.
As I said it's so confused now as to be a matter of subjective opinion. I'll happily give you my view but someone else could probably argue otherwise based on their labels and opinions .
Ifs a mess , just like a lot of life
Steve

ketsui73 said: For what it's worth I think that looks more like Christmas carol in that pic. CC stays more green and tends to go dark rather than blue when stressed . They tend to have some all red bumps rather than small red with white. You could argue that Donnie tends to be more star like shape but than can be blurred by how you grow it . So really it's only the blue colour that signifies Donnie over cc . These two are really to close and have been around long enough to be crossed multiple times to add to the confusion.
As I said it's so confused now as to be a matter of subjective opinion. I'll happily give you my view but someone else could probably argue otherwise based on their labels and opinions .
Ifs a mess , just like a lot of life
Steve

I could see why it is confusing the differences is sublime but significant for those wanting to properly ID their Aloes. I tend to go with the tags it came with but noticed you have both so I would love a comparison photo.

Mine is getting ready to bloom so it will be fairly easy to see the comparison soon. Surely there's got to be a difference in blooms. And to think I had been looking to buy CC (I like the sound of Christmas Carol) and it is probably the one I have all along. Oh boy wait till I have to explain to my friends that the Donnie I gave them will now be named "Carol" !

ketsui73 said: @Ursula
nice plants . Its possible that you first one is another hybrid that i have seen around a lot that is very close to donnie. Not saying this to try to 'look knowledgable' and my methods are subjective and far from scientific (which seems to frustrate people ) This is my opinion nothing more
Donne aka 'bright star' alternates between green and blue depending on stress levels. The leaves also have dimples (like reverse bumps) The bumps are white with a red centre. here is a green and blue leaves from my collection this morning, hopefully you can see the dimples. It also stays small


The other plant stays green, doesnt have the dimples , grows more 'upright' and gets much bigger. I think one of the names the other CV goes by is 'red flame' but its name is far from clear.
All that said the plants are so close it really doesnt matter I am a little obsessed with these hybrids and sort of enjoy the guessing game.
Stefan is correct on haworthia limifolia
The last one is one of the white H.attenuata cv's. I have one bought as 'superwhite' see pic below. I also think there is a very simular one that goes by the cv name 'big band'
Haworthia (Haworthiopsis attenuata 'Super White')
Steve

Steve @ketsui73
Fascinating stuff!! And here I thought these type of plants were just gorgeous!!
I just took another close look, and of course touched the leaves. There are definitely bumps, though not as pronounced as on yours, and they are white/yellowish with a red center.



I think that nursery needs another look!! Here was a piece of their offerings at my last visit.


Thanks all so much for helping me here!! Writing tags!

@Ursula I apologize for inserting my aloe in your ID thread but you might have a Carol and another variety #1. Yours look well taken care of.

Mine is a 10 year old neglected one but started taking good care of it last year. I will keep more babies this time too but it is my most requested aloe. Plus it stayed small, which is a plus. My friends are surprised to know that Aloes can live that long.

On another note, I saw @Baja_Costero's garden.Orr Christmas Carol photo at worldsucculents :tiphat:

Must be from one of the threads since I didn't see it in the database.

Gigi, no apologies needed whatsoever!!
Aren't they fun plants?? I feel like I hit the jackpot!! Definitely have to check out that nursery some more.

Ursula said: Gigi, no apologies needed whatsoever!!
Aren't they fun plants?? I feel like I hit the jackpot!! Definitely have to check out that nursery some more.

Yes you did! And those are definitely healthy looking aloes they have!

Ursula said: Gigi, no apologies needed whatsoever!!
Aren't they fun plants?? I feel like I hit the jackpot!! Definitely have to check out that nursery some more.

Gave some to a colleague in october, all of his caught, and are now doing quite well.
But yeah, I let mine grow into quite the nice clumps(always wanted clumping red aloes)

I searched for Aloe Donnie in the world of succulents and surprised to see my photo shown there. Is that website tied to NGA? I've noticed a few garden.org photos there.