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Oct 8, 2022 5:38 AM CST
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Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
I am starting my own little thread to keep those interested more in-depth up to date on what the garden situation is looking like. This will include posts about: daylilies, lilium, canna, and any type of blooming lily you can think of, but mostly daylilies.

Every daylily I wanted to bring with me to the new home is successfully transplanted and beginning to set roots.

All but a few of my varieties bloomed this year. Here's some highlights.

Strawberry Candy
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Monterrey Jack
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Chicago Apache
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NOID
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More updates soon~
-Monty
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Oct 8, 2022 5:55 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
Butterflies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Sages Plant Identifier
Just to be technically picky, though, only Lilium in your category are actually lilies. Neither daylilies nor cannas are actually in the lily family. Daylilies (Hemerocallis) are in the Asphodelaceae family and cannas (Canna) are in the Cannaceae. Common names can be quite misleading as far as plant relationships are concerned!

In case you're interested, there is a separate NGA forum for lilies that are actually lilies:

https://garden.org/forums/view...
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Oct 8, 2022 6:09 AM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
Keeps Horses Daylilies Region: Georgia Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Composter
Organic Gardener Irises Amaryllis Butterflies Birds Vegetable Grower
Monty, that NOID looks like Stella's Sparky. What else do you know about it? Where did you get it? How tall are the scapes? etc.

Daylily (Hemerocallis 'Stella's Sparky')
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Oct 8, 2022 7:29 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
Sue ~ I will at some point get the nomenclature out of my head and go by hemerocallis or simply daylilies. There's so many "lily" named plants which makes it difficult to accurately describe something by using the term "lily."

Blame whoever decided naming different plant species after a lily for this confusion Hilarious!

Nan ~ I got it from a local nursery but lost the tag it came with in the transition from nursery to car, and car to home. Bright Sunset is what I thought it was back in June, but I am not sure.

The scape height was around 24". It did not have a fragrance nor has it rebloomed. (It still could, however).

Stella's Sparky looks just about identical but I will never know for sure unless I grow NOID and Stella together to compare. Thank you for your help!
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Oct 8, 2022 9:21 AM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
Butterflies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Sages Plant Identifier
BlueRidgeGardener23 said: Sue ~ I will at some point get the nomenclature out of my head and go by hemerocallis or simply daylilies. There's so many "lily" named plants which makes it difficult to accurately describe something by using the term "lily."

Blame whoever decided naming different plant species after a lily for this confusion Hilarious!


Right, that was long before modern methods made it possible to determine what was related to lilies and what was not, so anything that looked kind of lily-like got called a lily (and many were wrongly placed in the lily family, Liliaceae, originally, including the daylily). Now most plants with "lily" in the common name are known not to actually be a kind of lily. Daylilies were removed from the lily family in the 1980s when modern techniques showed the placement was wrong.

For the common name, there was an attempt to fix this 100 years ago when the American Joint Committee on Horticultural Nomenclature published that the common name for Hemerocallis should be spelled as one word, daylily, and not day lily, specifically because of the confusion having "lily" in the name of a non-lily was causing.

The confusion can have repercussions, unfortunately, when plant toxicities are an issue and people need to correctly identify a plant suspected of poisoning.
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Oct 8, 2022 9:42 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
I imagine with so many '-lily' named species and plants, anyone who does not know the difference would never know that a Daylily isn't a lily, or that some '-lily' are in fact lilies, despite the look not being akin to what most people think a lily is.

Ask a random stranger on if a daylily is a lily and I guarantee most would say it is. Odd.

It's good to see that there have been many changes and attempts to change the nomenclature on many plants to avoid confusion and be accurate.
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Oct 8, 2022 10:03 AM CST
Name: Debra
Nashville, TN (Zone 7a)
Butterflies Cat Lover Daylilies Seed Starter Region: Tennessee
Hi Monty! Welcome to the forum. I'm enjoying your photos. I've been growing daylilies for 30 years, and I still call them lilies sometimes. Sue is a scientist and more precise than us plain folk.
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Oct 8, 2022 11:45 AM CST
Name: Tim
West Chicago, IL (Zone 5a)
Daylilies Native Plants and Wildflowers Vegetable Grower
When I get asked in the post office what's in the boxes I'm shipping, I usually just say lily bulbs, because they all visualise bulbs, and it's easier than explaing that I have complete daylily plants in the box. So sometimes I take advantage of the general confustion about dayliles vs lilies.
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Oct 8, 2022 1:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
Same with irises for me personally. I almost always say bulbs because few people on the planet earth know what a rhizome is. Shrug!

I suppose tuber is a better term than bulb in this case but I do like to sound fancy by saying rhizome. Whistling
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Oct 8, 2022 2:09 PM CST
Name: Sue
Ontario, Canada (Zone 4b)
Annuals Native Plants and Wildflowers Keeps Horses Dog Lover Daylilies Region: Canadian
Butterflies Birds Enjoys or suffers cold winters Garden Sages Plant Identifier
BlueRidgeGardener23 said: Same with irises for me personally. I almost always say bulbs because few people on the planet earth know what a rhizome is. Shrug!

I suppose tuber is a better term than bulb in this case but I do like to sound fancy by saying rhizome. Whistling


If we're gonna get technical, problem there is that there are bulbous irises (e.g Iris reticulata) and there are rhizomatous irises (e.g. Iris x germanica) and neither daylilies nor irises have tubers. Daylilies do have tuberous roots, which are not quite the same thing as a tuber, and daylilies can also have rhizomes growing from the crown.
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Oct 8, 2022 7:58 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
Sometimes, the giving nature of gardeners truly baffle me.

A nice person from this site let me know there is a daylily nursery in my area. As it turns out, it is not even FOUR miles away from the new home. After work, I set aside a list and called to make sure I could visit and/or buy.

The very awesome proprietor to No Stone Unturned Daylilies walked me and talked me around her property.

I expected to go in and pay a bunch of $20s for some new daylily cultivars. What I didn't expect was her to gift me SIX HUGE clumps of named varieties she was getting rid of to downsize. She even gave me a snippet of one of her newest daylilies introduced in 2020. I asked her multiple times that I should pay for these and she denied me every time.

I wish the awe I have ended there. I noticed that she had some reblooming irises, my other raw flower fascination in her yard. I asked her if I could take a small snippet of one so I could grow it and offered to pay her.

Nope! She took her pickaxe and dug me three reblooming irises that HAVE stalks on them and gave those to me for free as well.

She wasn't sure of the tags on them but I'm almost certain on two of them.

I came away with a full heart, 10 new plants that I didn't pay for, and so much enthusiasm. I cannot believe how kindhearted people are and now all I want to do is repay her back in snippets of my own garden.

I'm just, in awe.
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Oct 9, 2022 5:04 AM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
Keeps Horses Daylilies Region: Georgia Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Composter
Organic Gardener Irises Amaryllis Butterflies Birds Vegetable Grower
Wow, what a super experience. Daylily people are the best, aren't they?

Now you have to tell us what you got! Big Grin
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Oct 9, 2022 5:57 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
Here's the list of daylilies I was gifted:

'Above All' - Joiner 2014


'Cover Story' - Stadler 2005


'Desert Shore' - C. Hanson 2010


'Double Angels' - Gossard 2010


'Receding Memory' - Bouman 2019


'Two Hoots and a Holler' - Davisson 2020


'Uncle Henry of Oz' - Herrington 2007


Hurray! Hurray!
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Oct 9, 2022 6:38 AM CST
Name: Nan
southeast Georgia (Zone 8b)
Keeps Horses Daylilies Region: Georgia Cat Lover Enjoys or suffers hot summers Composter
Organic Gardener Irises Amaryllis Butterflies Birds Vegetable Grower
Wow, you certainly got some nice ones--and a good variety of types and colors. And you know they will do well because they were growing so close to your home. You must be over the moon!
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Oct 9, 2022 7:13 AM CST
Name: Robin
Southern Michigan (Zone 6a)
Cat Lover Daylilies Region: Michigan Seed Starter Seller of Garden Stuff Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Wow Monty, cool story! I'm so pleased for you.
God blessed me with dirt.
('Mipii' on The LA)
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Oct 9, 2022 7:36 AM CST
Name: Julie C
Roanoke, VA (Zone 7a)
Daylilies Garden Photography Region: Virginia Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Heucheras Cat Lover
Hummingbirder Clematis Lilies Birds Garden Art Butterflies
If you are interested in joining a local daylily club, the nearest one meets in Roanoke. Our club is the Blue Ridge Area Daylily Society ( BRADS). We just had a meeting yesterday and our next meeting will be in November with Rich Howard from Ct. Daylilies as our speaker. His daylilies are cutting edge, as you likely know.

We have an active FB page under Blue Ridge Area Daylily Society, and I'd be happy to send you more information . If you're interested, please PM me. We have several very active club members who live in your area. They have beautiful gardens and lots of daylilies. In fact, the club toured two gardens near you this summer, one in Bassett, and one in Henry. Daylily clubs are great enablers, and provide ways to get more daylilies easily. We frequently trade and buy among ourselves, and we also have a plants for members program.
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Oct 9, 2022 8:59 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
Julie ~ I'm so thrilled! JoAnne told me about BRADS yesterday evening and I've been looking for years to branch out into more areas and meet new people. This seems to be the way to do just that! I would love to find out more.

Robin ~ I still feel incredibly warm inside right now. I have no other desire but to pay her back in gifts from my own garden. Lovey dubby
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Oct 9, 2022 9:19 AM CST
Name: Zoia Bologovsky
Stoneham MA (Zone 6b)
Azaleas Region: Massachusetts Organic Gardener Daylilies Cat Lover Bulbs
Butterflies Birds Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Bee Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters
And that is definitely the way it works! Such fun for you yesterday!

I had a similar experience with the Sterns last summer. On visiting my garden they brought me a piece of Yankee Pinstripes which they knew I admired ( Rich Howard plant…proud to say he is a friend of mine…he didn't have any left though). When I visited their garden, I brought a piece of Phantom Warrior ( Gossard, 2008) which they had admired in my yard. They didn't let me leave without taking three clumps with me,
Greywoods River Dancer, Greywoods Tallyho (both by Darlyn Wilkinson, another friend) and Lightning Force ( Gossard 2006). Now I feel like I owe them some plants! Lovey dubby
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Oct 9, 2022 9:25 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Monty Riggles
Bassett, Virginia (Zone 7a)
Avid iris and daylily grower.
Cat Lover Daylilies Irises Keeper of Poultry Region: Virginia
Zoia ~ Get what you give Smiling
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Oct 9, 2022 5:13 PM CST
Name: Vickie
southern Indiana (Zone 6b)
Bee Lover Garden Photography Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Daylilies Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Region: United States of America
Region: Indiana Garden Art Annuals Clematis Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Level 2
What a wonderful outcome, Monty! Having a daylily/iris garden and a daylily club so close is truly a blessing. You got some nice ones!
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