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Sep 27, 2016 8:37 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
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It looks like it is time to look at another sempervivum to verify we have the correct one in our database.
It is S. 'Nico'.

This is believed to be the correct plant. The photo is from Fernwood's photo files.

And this photo by goldfinch4


Here is a photo I took today of what I have as 'Nico'. I don't think it is correct.
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Sep 28, 2016 12:58 PM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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That looks exactly like mine. Here's my pic from the "pink" thread for comparison. I gotta say... it's not too shabby looking.

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Yet another imposter? Or perhaps this is what 'Nico' does in September?

What say you, Kevin? I suppose your specimen is lime-green with strong, fiery red tips.
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Sep 28, 2016 1:07 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Seems like we had this discussion before because I have already down graded my 'Nico' to Noid? Darned if I can find it the discussion. Think it's lost in the chat thread.
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Sep 28, 2016 4:41 PM CST
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Julia I looked for it also, but could not find a thread devoted to 'Nico'. So I started this one.

@JungleShadows
Kevin can you take a new photo of your 'Nico' so we can see what it looks like this time of year?
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Sep 28, 2016 5:06 PM CST
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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Well I'm glad you remember as well, think I'm crazy sometimes. I did get a new one from SMG looks pink now and didn't do summer to will. Kind of crispy.
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Sep 28, 2016 5:09 PM CST
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The SMG photo looks to be correct.
http://www.smgsucculents.com/s...
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Sep 29, 2016 7:27 AM CST
Name: Kevin Vaughn
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Tim is coming over today so he can compare his to mine!

Kevin
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Sep 29, 2016 9:44 AM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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JungleShadows said:Tim is coming over today so he can compare his to mine!
Kevin


Yes, I'll be launching an official investigation by acquiring expert (unpaid) testimony from a local Sempervivum authority in the Salem area. Any of you on this forum may also be subpoenaed for testimony. Please remain at least 100 feet away from your Sempervivums until this investigation is completed. Angry
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Sep 29, 2016 11:00 AM CST
Name: Steve Claggett
Portland Orygun (Zone 8a)
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To be a fly on the wall.
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Sep 29, 2016 5:48 PM CST
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Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Rolling my eyes.

Is it okay to go out to my semp beds yet Tim?
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Sep 29, 2016 6:45 PM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn said:
Is it okay to go out to my semp beds yet Tim?


Well... let's take a look see.

Here's a horrible picture of Kevin's 'Nico' in its native habitat.

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And here are two rosettes from Kevin's plant placed next to mine. Kevin's are the two at the bottom. Kevin's have stronger red tips and no (or weaker) watermarks. Suspicious... but inconclusive as far as I can tell. Innocent until proven guilty?

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Sep 29, 2016 8:10 PM CST
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Is Kevin's 'Nico' in full sun? No, I can see they are getting some shade.
I am thinking that mine is not correct. Sad
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Sep 29, 2016 11:30 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Tim's Kevin's look more purplish red rather than brownish red...to me, not that this is too significant, but glad you took a couple to grow next to yours to see in the spring if they look the same Thumbs up
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Sep 30, 2016 11:18 AM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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gg5 said:... glad you took a couple to grow next to yours to see in the spring if they look the same


Was I supposed to do that? *Blush* I hope I didn't throw them away. D'Oh! Gotta go check now.
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Oct 2, 2016 11:27 AM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Butterflies Sempervivums Region: Pacific Northwest Vegetable Grower Cactus and Succulents Sedums
Bee Lover Region: Oregon Dragonflies Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Composter
OK, here's Kevin's 'Nico' planted next to mine (and Lynn's I think). There's a similar offset planted on the other side. Who here actually believes I'll remember any of this come April?

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Oct 2, 2016 3:18 PM CST
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Whistling
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Oct 5, 2016 10:51 AM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
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Looking at the suspected impersonator today, it now seems obvious that the two offsets from Kevin are different from my 'Nico'. But what seems obvious today ain't necessarily so. I will give it some time.

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Oct 5, 2016 11:05 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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The creeping clump on the left is Kevin's and yours is the big round clump?...they do look similar but clump on left has slightly narrower leaves from what I could discern... Shrug!
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Oct 5, 2016 11:11 AM CST
Name: Tim Stoehr
Canby, Oregon (Zone 8b)
Butterflies Sempervivums Region: Pacific Northwest Vegetable Grower Cactus and Succulents Sedums
Bee Lover Region: Oregon Dragonflies Keeper of Poultry Cat Lover Composter
No no no... the two lonely individual offsets are Kevin's. One on the north side and one to the south of the main clump. You have to enlarge the picture to see them. The creeper on the left is the eternally boring 'Amanda'.
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Oct 5, 2016 11:39 AM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
Container Gardener Foliage Fan Sempervivums Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Garden Ideas: Master Level
Oops, my laptop and eyes are failing me...and don't hesitate to tell us how you really feel about 'Amanda'... Whistling

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