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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 27, 2012 9:38 PM CST
I missed the bloom while I was gone during April and first part of May. So I don't have a photo of the bloom.
It comes up in the spring, beyond that I know nothing about it. They are about 1 1/2 to 2 feet tall.



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Name: Monica
Texas Gulf Coast (Zone 9b)
Sweat Weather, Not Sweater Weather
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krancmm
May 27, 2012 10:46 PM CST
Does it have rosy-purple orchid-like flowers? Multiplies? A bulb? Did you plant it?

If yes to above, it looks like Bletilla striata, Chinese Ground Orchid.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 27, 2012 10:53 PM CST
I did not plant it. It has been here for probably 50 years. I haven't seen the flowers.
I will try to dig one up and see if it is a bulb.

It doesn't appear to send up a stalk of blooms. The seed head is down in the leaves. You can see it in the one photo.
Name: Monica
Texas Gulf Coast (Zone 9b)
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krancmm
May 27, 2012 11:10 PM CST
My bad. Foliage looked right. Not Chinese Ground Orchid, Sorry...
Monica
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
May 28, 2012 5:44 AM CST
The leaves remind me of Veratrum, they send a flower spike up but can be very slow to flower. I would think it had flowered within 50 years though! Hilarious!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=veratrum+album&bav=on...

If the thing showing in the middle is a seed pod then that seems to rule it out, unless it's about to send up a flower spike. Keep an eye on it, I have Veratrum nigrum and it's sending up a stem for the first time which doesn't look to have any flowers, yet. I've had it for around 7 years, and it was about 7 years old when I bought it!

It also bears resemblance to a Helleborine orchid, Epipactis .

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 28, 2012 9:21 AM CST
I will keep an eye on it and take photos of any changes. Thank you Janet.
I see it is quite toxic. But so are lupines. : )
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
May 28, 2012 10:14 AM CST
My tree lupin has tons of buds on it! Green Grin! The whole plant has laid down and sent out lots of side shoots with buds which are going skywards, a plant which is laid sideways or at an angle will naturally try to send upward shoots so it's a good idea to leave it that way. It remained upright over winter though, and kept all it's leaves with no damage to the stem or leaves! We had some quite hard frosts too, one down to -15C (5F). I can't wait to see the flowers!
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 28, 2012 9:38 PM CST
Mine did the same thing Janet. Mine is in bloom right now, they are purple/blue, not the yellow. I was really hoping for the yellow. : (
I love it anyway. The regular Russel's Lupines are right behind the bush lupine, both are in bloom. I will try to remember to take a photo tomorrow. : )
I think of you every time I see it. Group hug
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jun 3, 2012 6:23 PM CST
Mine is yellow!!! Green Grin! It's been raining all day, very cold too (max. 9C or 48F today!) but I can see it out the front window starting to open! I guess as I had the yellow one self set nearby it came as a reversion from that one.

I think of you too when I look at mine, we have a sure connection in the Lupins Lynn.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 3, 2012 8:25 PM CST
I finally went out and got a photo. It really is a cool bush. You can see the Russell Lupine behind the Tree Lupine. It's really cloudy out today so the lighter blue Tree Lupine blooms don't show up very well. I'll try to get a close up photo of the bloom.

Name: Janet Super Sleuth
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JRsbugs
Jun 4, 2012 5:29 AM CST
That looks just like the blue one I had Lynn! It didn't grow so tall but made a semi-permanent stem, it died off after a severe winter but there's two plants grown near it. One is flowering now, it has a long spike with wide spread florets, they are paler still with a faint pink tinge. I got photos but they are on my camera still, we have had a little sun today but big black clouds keep blowing in from the north.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2012 9:45 AM CST
Rained here all night. I'll try to get an up close photo between rain showers today. : )
Name: Kathleen Tenpas
Wickwire Corners NY (Zone 5a)
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Kathleen
Jun 4, 2012 1:21 PM CST
the leaves look like autumn crocus to me - they die back and it blooms in September or October.

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2012 1:47 PM CST
Kathleen, I do have autumn crocus in that area. Would the leaves get that large?

Hurray! I just looked it up. Bless you Kathleen. Look what I found. http://www.coldclimategardening.com/2005/09/17/colchicum-fol... Group hug
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2012 2:53 PM CST
Very fascinating plant when you read up on it. Thank you again Kathleen.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jun 4, 2012 3:23 PM CST
That looks just like yours Lynn! I wonder which species it is, I have Colchicum Waterlily which has quite large foliage, but it's very glossy and the leaves aren't grooved like those. I have never seen seed pods in it either, they multiply by tuber division but the seed pods do remind me of those which Crocus make.
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Name: Kathleen Tenpas
Wickwire Corners NY (Zone 5a)
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Kathleen
Jun 4, 2012 4:02 PM CST
you're welcome. we have three different varieties that were here when we moved in. definitely not a foliage plant, they can be coarse and ugly, but the pay off in the fall is worth it.

Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2012 5:14 PM CST
Here you go Janet, it is Colchicum agrippinum False Autumn Crocus (Colchicum x agrippinum)

I added the photos to the database along with some interesting information in a Comment.
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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JRsbugs
Jun 4, 2012 6:29 PM CST
I love that one Lynn, I never got around to buying it though. They were very expensive when I got Waterlily years ago, and that increased well (I spread it around) so I guess I felt fulfilled. Hilarious!

They do make a good show, but the other plants around mine start to die back when they flower so sort of spoil the effect. You will have to get some photos of the flowers in the autumn too, I guess you remembered seeing the flowers then, it can catch you out when you don't realise the foliage grows in the spring.
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
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valleylynn
Jun 4, 2012 6:36 PM CST
The close up photo of the bloom in the database is mine. They are more beautiful than the photo shows them to be.
Wish it was easier to mail plants out of the the US. I'd dig some up and send them to you. : )

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