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Jun 3, 2012 3:38 PM CST
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woofie said:Are there ANY blooms that are that big? Hilarious! Oh, maybe sunflowers.....


Inflorescence over 18":

Many grasses- to 4' (they are considered flowering plants)
Amaranthus caudatus (Love-Lies-Bleeding) 3'-4'
Wisteria to 3'
Number of pendulous Heliconias 1'-3+'
Strongylodon macrobotrys (Jade Vine) to 10'

And that's without really thinking about it.
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Jun 3, 2012 5:44 PM CST
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Hmmm, I WAS thinking of the individual flowers. Are the blooms on things like Wisteria considered a single bloom?
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Jun 3, 2012 6:18 PM CST
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That confused me too, Woofie. I would think Wisteria blooms are those little things that are all clustered together on the raceme.
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Jun 3, 2012 6:28 PM CST
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The difference seems to be in reference to bloom clusters as opposed to single blooms.
What about Queen Anne's Lace?

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Jun 3, 2012 7:10 PM CST
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And you make a very good point with that example, Shar! I don't really know, either.
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Jun 3, 2012 8:21 PM CST
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That's why I suggested splitting them. Racemes, spikes, panicles etc. are not flower forms, they are types of inflorescences. It's a bit confusing having them listed together in the same category with flower forms (although, technically, a compound flower is a type of inflorescence as well).

Speaking of types of inflorescences, I:

misspelled "Thyrse" above
forgot "Catkin"
and should have said "Spadix" rather than Spathe (a spathe the sheath covering a spadix, the spadix is the actual inflorescence)
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Jun 3, 2012 8:27 PM CST
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I fixed the three items.
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Aug 18, 2012 5:05 PM CST
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I'm noticing Monarda blooms being described as a whorl or whorled. Is this an appropriate addition to the Flower Form area? Or could it be added in an "other" drop down?
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Aug 18, 2012 6:35 PM CST
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Monarda flowers give the appearance of being arranged in whorls but, technically, they aren't. Instead, the inflorescence is a particular type of a Cyme called a Verticillaster. Many plants in the mint family have this type of inflorescence.

So, Monarda blooms could be described as Cymes, Verticillasters, or Whorls. For what it is worth, Whorl isn't a term a botanist would use. On the other hand, Cyme and Verticillaster probably aren't terms very many gardeners know. I guess it depends on how technical the database should be?
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Aug 19, 2012 7:09 AM CST
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It can be as technical as we want because we can present the information in many different ways - some friendly and some technical.

Maybe for the Flower Form area, we want something like 'Whorled-type' or 'Whorled in appearance'.
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Aug 19, 2012 9:07 AM CST
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dave said:It can be as technical as we want because we can present the information in many different ways - some friendly and some technical.

I like this approach in particular because more than one selection can be made.

While I'm unsure of it's accuracy the Wikipedia Inflorescence page has nice diagrams of a variety of forms, verticillaster among them. Thanks Kent. Rhipidium, can be very well described by a photo of a spent bloom stalk of a Canna showing the fruit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...
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