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Jun 22, 2012 5:25 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Moonlight Waves is gorgeous! How tall, Evan?

I'm going to take a guess at the funnels with fingers, LOL. Petaloids?

Damage to the petal tips could very well be the iris bud fly, Orthochaeta dissimilis. Lucy can tell you more about whether the damage you have is from that. It seems to me it's spreading, and I know it attacks a lot of siberians.
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Jun 22, 2012 5:40 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Here's some more info on the bud fly from an old post on Hort Net. Seems it started in Maine, so any plants from there I would put some insecticide on before planting.

" This pest known as the iris bud fly (Orthochaeta dissimilis) favors
beardless irises but will `use' bearded iris to deposit its larvae
if no beardless are handy.

"Once hatched, the larva eats its way around the inside of the
flower and its preferred food seems to be pollen but it eats through style
arms and standards, too so that when the flower finally opens
the falls are usually intact but the standards, styles and anthers are all
in a mess." taken from an article by Marty Schafer in the Iris Society of
Massachusetts Newsletter - Spring 1996

Marty uses Cygon...so does Currier McEwen....to control the fly.

This pest was reported by the late Sarah Tiffney in Massachusetts
in 1978 and it appears to be increasing in Maine (according to
Currier's new book) and Ellen G. can attest to it being in
Northern New Hampshire....it has been reported as far south as
Virginia and it has also been identified in Western New York in
1994.

I have more info for those that are interested...

I also have seen a yellow larva in a destroyed bud...don't know
what it was...I have written to Currier and will write to Marty.
Some of my Japanese buds are also targets...still don't use any
chemicals - supposedly, this larvae doesn't do damage to the plant
itself just the bud & flower but if one is involved with a hybri-
dizing program, the essential reproductive parts are destroyed."
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Jun 22, 2012 5:46 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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MW is only about 30" tall. You liked fwf? Green Grin! I checked a few online sites and noticed Petaloids on a few pics there as well. Thanks! Even on the second day the patterning is less distinct here than I was expecting.
I'll have to look up Iris bud fly. Looking over the various iris was like being at the zoo. Loads of different insects and spiders. Several different flies, small native bees, a tan beetle and one mean looking little beastie that looked like it belonged at the bottom of a pond.
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Jun 22, 2012 6:05 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Well, fwf did describe it pretty good.
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Jun 22, 2012 7:14 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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That's a great post on the bud fly and as I've purchased iris from both Maine and Mass I guess I'll have to spray.
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Jun 22, 2012 7:20 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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I think that Bayer tree and shrub drench is good for any critters on the irises.
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Jun 22, 2012 7:36 PM CST
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Name: Evan
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Thanks. Does this look like diamond dusting?
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Jun 23, 2012 2:26 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Beautiful picture Evan
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Jun 23, 2012 7:24 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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It does to me.
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Jun 23, 2012 7:51 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Gay Gallant just starting
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Jun 23, 2012 8:05 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Pretty!
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Jun 23, 2012 8:16 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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not fully opened and half as tall as last year.
I moved it for the new path.I am surprised it bloomed.
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Jun 23, 2012 8:18 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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They set their bloom the previous year. So if it's not going to bloom from the move it will be next year, but I doubt that.
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Jun 23, 2012 8:24 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
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Thats good news. thanx
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Jun 23, 2012 11:43 AM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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Can't wait to see GG in full bloom Jo Ann.

I goofed in my ID in earlier post. Oriental Eyes just opened today. The previous pics are of Crystal Halo. Now to correct map.
Evan
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Jun 23, 2012 11:52 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
I cant keep up anyway.GG is finally open.
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Jun 23, 2012 12:07 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
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Wow, that's beautiful Jo Ann! Drooling
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 23, 2012 12:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Heucheras Hellebores Container Gardener
Birds Region: New York Avid Green Pages Reviewer Irises Garden Ideas: Master Level Lilies
I just hate what the wierd weather did to many plants this spring. GG Was nearly 4 feet tall last year.Maybe 2013 will be better.
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Jun 23, 2012 12:29 PM CST
Name: Susan
Virginia (Zone 8a)
God is the only thing that matters.
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
Bee Lover Dahlias Butterflies Hostas Birds Lilies
I agree Thumbs up
Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Mat.6:28-29
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Jun 23, 2012 4:24 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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Stunning Jo Ann!

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