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Jun 26, 2012 6:33 AM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Hey, Paul, love your new avatar, and thanks to you and Evan for putting Lion King in the database. Now that it's gone commercial, the Dutch will get a hold of it and probably offer every purple and white iris as Lion King. But now we will forever have data on the original and proper one. Too bad we didn't have this back when Caesars Brother, etc., got all mixed up in commerce.

So thanks to all of you who are entering properly named irises in the database here, and in Cubits!!!!!!!!!!

And thanks to Dee for keeping all those pictures proper!
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Jun 26, 2012 6:41 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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It was fun to find Lion King at my local nursery so I can give Japanese Iris a try. A friend saw my plant, liked it, and went to get one for his garden. Dee does a wonderful job.....
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Jun 26, 2012 6:53 AM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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It is pretty, isn't it?

Just some info. The iris Lion King came from Ensata Gardens first, and Walters Gardens, the leading wholesaler bought it to introduce in the huge quantities they grow things in, 100s of thousands, usually. I know I said this part before, but in case someone missed it. So the basic plant growers (not iris growers) around the country have purchased it from Walters. From Walters, it will be true to name, as they are meticulous.

But, Walters is in Michigan, and the plants were grown there, and as we all know, irises set their flower buds the year before. So the plant you got, Paul, set it's bud in cooler Michigan, and may not do as well for you.

Last year on Cubits I made a general announcement when it was time to fertilize your beardless irises in late summer for bud set. Evan said he did this, with good results.

Can't wait to see it next year, Paul.
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Jun 26, 2012 7:05 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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Hope it is happy next year...if so I will add a few more JI.......
Paul Smith Pleasant Grove, Utah
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Jun 26, 2012 5:48 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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There are 40-50 clumps of a NOID siberian and I've never seen so many blooms nor a longer bloom period for that Iris. We had a milder winter and average spring rainfall so I'm sold.

I find it exiting that a grower like Walters is pushing a JI. It was a far plainer JI that got me so interested in Iris.

The Dutch strike again. Dutch Iris Lion King. https://store.brentandbeckysbu...
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Jun 26, 2012 6:12 PM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Already?
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Jun 26, 2012 6:16 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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Grooooan!!!
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Jun 26, 2012 9:25 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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Bulbus irises registered in the Netherlands; rhizomes in the US.
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Jun 26, 2012 9:30 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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AIS registers rhizomes, Dutch the bulbus. Where is that iris from? I don't think that they check back & forth.
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Jun 26, 2012 10:55 PM CST
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Breck's site says "...created by one of Holland’s premier bulb growers..." http://brecks.com/lion-king-du...

There's no coordination at all? Either way?
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Jun 27, 2012 6:36 AM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Where does one find the Dutch registry?

I did find the site:

http://www.kavb.nl/index.cfm?a...
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Jun 27, 2012 11:01 AM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
Forum moderator Region: Pacific Northwest Sedums Sempervivums Lilies Hybridizer
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That is one I use for lilies as many Dutch register there instead of RHS. I don't know if Dutch iris are there but it can be tested to see. This is the form I fill (just genus and cultivar name has been sufficient for me for lilies).

http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange...

(Zoeken is Search)
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Jun 27, 2012 12:33 PM CST
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Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY (Zone 6a)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Region: United States of America Irises Lilies
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Thanks! Nice registry too, very descriptive,
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Jun 29, 2012 5:07 AM CST
Name: Lucy
Tri Cities, WA (Zone 6b)
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As they register bulbs, I doubt if they would check names for rhizomous irises. There may be lillies registered under the name as well. I know that daylillies & irises can carry the same names. People get ideas from each other.
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Jul 5, 2012 9:32 AM CST
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Name: Evan
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pardalinum said:That is one I use for lilies as many Dutch register there instead of RHS. I don't know if Dutch iris are there but it can be tested to see. This is the form I fill (just genus and cultivar name has been sufficient for me for lilies).

http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange...

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I don't know how comprehensive this is. I also found another search method by navigating thru the KAVB site. http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange...

I searched Canna and didn't find many listed in the RHS DB, even one which is an AGM winner.
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Nov 7, 2012 6:36 PM CST
Name: Louise
East Texas, zones 7b/8a
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These three irises came from local people who shared. Can
you tell me if the names they gave me are correct?
Thanks for any help,
Louise
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Huckleberry Fudge (kinda brown colored):


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Lady Friend:

Thumb of 2012-11-08/louise/71d9b4

Thornbird (space type?):

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Nov 7, 2012 6:46 PM CST
Name: Tom
Southern Wisconsin (Zone 5b)
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The first one looks similar to Colortart The last one is Thornbird, I'm quite sure of that one. I have no idea about the one in the middle.

Here's a pic of Color tart to compare.
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Nov 7, 2012 6:59 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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Hi Louise,
Each of these is in the database with photographs for comparison.
Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Thornbird')
Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Huckleberry Fudge')
Tall Bearded Iris (Iris 'Lady Friend')
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Nov 7, 2012 7:13 PM CST
Name: Louise
East Texas, zones 7b/8a
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Tom, my Lady Friend doesn't have the white and specks like the picture above.

Evan, yeah for all the links. I'll go check them out right now. There's so much
for me to learn about this site.

Thanks to both of you,
Louise
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Nov 7, 2012 9:15 PM CST
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Name: Evan
Pioneer Valley south, MA, USA (Zone 6a)
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Your welcome Louise. There's lots of great Iris growers like Tom and they come from many different zones and climates AND there's always great photos.

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