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Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Aug 12, 2012 10:49 AM CST
I received a Pink Jasmine from an E-Bay sale.. the vine grows rampant and has given the first flower.. it didn't look jasmine like to me... although lovely...
I did a google image search for Pink Jasmine .. and saw most of them looked like the jasmine flowers I know.. but some were kind of like this one..
Here's the flower picture... much of the leaves you see are feom a cypress vine that's intertwined with the jasmine... some os the jasmine leaves arre able t be seen through these...
are thete just such a variety of pink jasmines .. or is this, as I believe, some other vine alll together
thanks all...Thumb of 2012-08-12/GordonHawk/e97fec
OH.. this flower seems to show more of the jasmine leaves
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 12, 2012 10:56 AM CST
Wow. Whatever that is, I want one!
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Calif_Sue
Aug 12, 2012 12:03 PM CST

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Hi Gordon!
This is the 3rd time this one has come up in this ID Forum, it's Clytostoma callistegioides Make sure to see all the photos, one is a fantastic full plant one from Japan!
Guess eBay seller just made up a name. Hilarious!
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 12, 2012 2:06 PM CST
But Gordon's is PINK! Hilarious! Is this just a different color of the same plant?
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Horntoad
Aug 12, 2012 2:47 PM CST
Judging for Gordon's pic I would say woofie is right, Podranea ricasoliana. The leaves don't look right for Clytostoma callistegioides.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Calif_Sue
Aug 12, 2012 5:03 PM CST

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Well, I'll be! Odd how similar the blooms are!!

I found this "A note about buying Lavender Trumpet Vine -- there is lots of confusion between Red Trumpet Vine (Campsis radicans)/Scarlet Trumpet Vine (Distictis buccinatoria)/Pink Trumpet Vine (Podranea ricasoliana) and Lavender Trumpet Vine (Clytostoma callistegioides), even among well-known plant/seed catalogs.
http://eclecticplants.ecrater.com/p/10115605/clytostoma-call...
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 12, 2012 6:08 PM CST
Wow. I just thought we were maybe missing something from the plant database when I went looking for "Pink Trumpet Vine." I figured maybe they were just different cultivars of the same plant. Oh,and not only are there different names for the Pink one, there appear to be different spellings of the species. Sigh.
Podranea ricasoliana OR
Podranea ricolasiana
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Horntoad
Aug 12, 2012 7:22 PM CST
Podranea ricolasiana appears to be a misspelling and there are no pictures for it in the database, so it should probably be deleted.
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Calif_Sue
Aug 12, 2012 9:02 PM CST

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Thanks Jay, I just deleted it! Thumbs up And thanks woofie for pointing it out too. Thumbs up
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 12, 2012 9:10 PM CST
Um, but then there's this:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-3700638
I know, ideally this should be addressed in the database forum, but since we're here...........sigh.
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Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Aug 12, 2012 10:09 PM CST
Thanks Sue..Woofie ..and Jay.. I did garden search on google images.. and there it was ..
http://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isc...
It sure makes gardening more fun when you know what you have...
So.. Woofie you like one... where are you.. OH.. out in WA... judging from the way mine grows.. my vine should there at your house in about a year and a half.. or a little more if we hit snow in the high passes.. watch for it.. you'll love it..
it about covers my American Dream Catcher nowThumb of 2012-08-13/GordonHawk/af7ec2
here a bit of distance in the shot... that's the right half of the plant.. a small one this spring..
Thumb of 2012-08-13/GordonHawk/fa1418
the pictures from Japan of the house covered in the flowers... needless to say that was a single plant.. likely planted the year before... OH a zone 8 plant likely tender here...
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seedforbrains
Sep 4, 2012 5:25 PM CST
For sure this isn't Clytostoma callistioges (what a mouthful!) It's quite lavender with purple veins and has a strange prickly pod rather than the thin flat one common to most bignoniaceae. (If I'm spelling something wrong, forgive me. Been a long day in the heat.) I'm dang certain this is Podranea ricasoliana, which is pinky pink, a bit more tropical than Clytostoma and its friends, Pandorea jasminoides.

They're all related. Bignoniaceae includes most trumpety things, trees as well as vines. Usually the seeds are flat and stacked like sardines inside a long, flat pod. They fly on the wind when the pod is ripe.

Campsis radicans has a 5" red and yellow bloom. It might be related, but it's an invasive nightmare (even in cold zones) whereas the rest like zones 9-11 and are fairly well behaved.

And just when you think you've got this nomenclature thing nailed, The Botonists decide to move something from one family into another. (How rude!) You mainly need to know what you have so you don't plant a tropical vine in Nebraska and be all sad when it snows. These are all perennials and don't reseed quickly like morning glories.

Here endeth the lesson. Clearly I need a nap.Thumb of 2012-09-04/seedforbrains/7eea60
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Horntoad
Sep 4, 2012 5:59 PM CST
Edited my post due to brain fog.
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Name: Gordon
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GordonHawk
Sep 4, 2012 8:00 PM CST
well...we're learning alot ... as usual the more you know... the understanding of how much you don't know is greater than the amount you know something about.. It's like almost I guess is that something you know is shrinking..
so it's developing nicely... plenty of buds and I'm starting to get clumps of flowers opening together... here's a look... pretty in pinkThumb of 2012-09-05/GordonHawk/72a63f
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