Plant Database forum: Hybrid genus x Petchoa

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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Aug 23, 2012 9:54 AM CST

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A new hybrid genus by Danziger of a cross between Petunia x Calibrachoa called x Petchoa.

Ref. to the following publication: http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/RHS-Publications/Journals/Hanbu...

and the RHS DB: http://apps.rhs.org.uk/horticulturaldatabase/summary2.asp?cr...

Dave, please add this as an accepted genus to the DB.
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dave
Aug 23, 2012 11:15 AM CST

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It's added. Thumbs up
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eclayne
Aug 23, 2012 5:14 PM CST

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Many thanks!
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Aug 23, 2012 5:21 PM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
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eclayne
Aug 28, 2012 7:16 PM CST

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Dave, if you look at the x Petchoa in the DB there are a few oddities. http://garden.org/plants/search/text.php?q=x+petchoa&submit=...
1. X Petchoa 'Dancalipet': the hyperlinked geus is X Petchoa. XPetchoa 'Dancalipet'
2*. For all others (SuperCal®'s) the hyperlinked geus is X. XPetchoa SuperCal® Neon Rose
3. In all cases the x was entered as lower case but was changed to uppercase.

*Genus X: http://garden.org/plants/browse/plants/genus/X/
Lists plants with either an accepted name or synonym beginning with x.
ex. Pardancanda (Iris x norrisii), syn. x Iris norrisii. Species X Iris (Iris x norrisii)
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dave
Aug 28, 2012 7:58 PM CST

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Yes, when I created our system I didn't anticipate that we would have genus names with spaces in them! I was certain that all genera were one word. So, these "X " genera will need me to fix the system in quite a few places.
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Aug 28, 2012 9:37 PM CST

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Okee doke.
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eclayne
Dec 6, 2012 8:25 PM CST

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Given that Joannabanana is the DB moderator for both Petunia and Calibrachoa doesn't that make her the Petchoa moderator by default? Green Grin!
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Dec 6, 2012 8:27 PM CST

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That sounds logical. Smiling
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dave
Dec 6, 2012 8:30 PM CST

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Not actually since there is no parent plant setup for X Petchoa yet. Smiling
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Joannabanana
Dec 7, 2012 10:26 AM CST
Petchoa's could have the very same parent plant data default selection as the calibrachoas, excluding the common name. Sure, for moderating.

Common names for Petchoa: Calitunia

There were actually called Calitunia before Petchoa, but since Danzinger had registered the Trade Name of Calitunia for a series, the powers decided to name them x Petchoa

Series out there are: Calitunia by Danzinger and Super Cal by Sakata,
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eclayne
Dec 7, 2012 10:53 AM CST

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You can check/edit it here Joanne. Calitunia (XPetchoa)
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Joannabanana
Dec 7, 2012 11:03 AM CST
I tip my hat to you.
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Joannabanana
Apr 21, 2013 8:57 AM CST
I am working on a ATP Gardening Idea article on Petchoas and was going to add info for each variety in the ATP database. In the database, can we have Growth Habit, Vigor and Daylight neutral added to the datasheet. Same as what is in Calibrachoa & Petunias
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dave
Apr 22, 2013 3:15 PM CST

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The situation here with the X Petchoas is that we don't have a parent plant setup for them and therefore it's not possible to add special fields for just that genus.

Now we could do that, and maybe we should, but there are only 14 cultivars listed for that genus. Is it worth doing it for such a small group of plants?
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Joannabanana
Apr 22, 2013 6:30 PM CST
it is a very new genus and yes currently there are only 14 cultivars. I guess I will just make comments for the individual varieties regarding growth habit, vigor and early bloom. Thumbs up
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Apr 22, 2013 6:39 PM CST

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That'll work for now and remember that I am indeed willing to set this up for them if we all agree that it's worth it.

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