I have a sideline , potted lilium sales[small elite scale], supply of many of my seedling off-sets, so every good move that I make,reflects in what I sell in the future,.,you know!! people love to see something different!!I show my plants and win prizes,that helps,Alison, Im growing Cardiocrinum Giganteum from seed, So, theres at least 7 years until I see flowers, and then it dies!!!tough break-Anthony