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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 11, 2012 11:23 AM CST

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Dave,
Can these entries be changed to Parent Plants?
Musa: Bananas (Musa)
Caladium: Caladiums (Caladium)
Evan
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dave
Sep 11, 2012 11:41 AM CST

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Yes they can.

When a plant is made a parent, then all matching children plants will be given the data from the parent. So looking at Musa, I see it says "Suitable as Annual" - do we want that added down to all Musas?
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 11, 2012 12:36 PM CST

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Funny you should ask. I was going to make a separate post about "Suitable as Annual" and "Suitable as a houseplant" and how we define them.

Personally I wouldn't grow any banana as an annual by choice, although I have by accident, Green Grin! but in a single growing season, even in colder zones, they do attain significant size. I've noticed this checked for other fast growers as well. Colocasia and Xanthosoma for example. Even the Caladium I have I'll save the tubers for next year. I'm fine with taking that out of either or both.
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dave
Sep 11, 2012 12:50 PM CST

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Ok, it's done! I removed the houseplant and annual parts and marked Musa as parent.

Caladiums is now marked as parent, too.

Thanks!
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valleylynn
Sep 11, 2012 12:57 PM CST
Hurray! More parent plants. Thumbs up
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 11, 2012 1:40 PM CST

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I agree Hurray!
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 11, 2012 2:31 PM CST

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Two more but changes to existing. Should read.

Parent plants:

Zantedeschia: Callas (Zantedeschia)
Plant Habit: Herb/Forb
Life cycle: Perennial
Flowers: Showy
Flower Time: Other: Seasonal.
Flower Form: Spadix
Underground structures: Corm
Uses: Suitable as Annual, Suitable as a houseplant
Toxicity: Other: All parts of plant contain calcium oxalate crystals, an irritant to the mouth and esophagus. Toxic to cats and dogs.
Propagation: Other methods: Division, Offsets
Containers: Suitable in 3 gallon or larger
Miscellaneous: Goes Dormant, Deer Resistant, Rabbit Resistant

Colocasia: Elephant Ears (Colocasia) (Colocasia)
Plant Habit: Herb/Forb
Life cycle: Perennial
Leaves: Good growing season color
Flower Time: Other: Seasonal.
Flower Form: Spadix
Underground structures: Tuber
Uses: Will Naturalize
Toxicity: Other: All parts of plant contain calcium oxalate crystals, an irritant to the mouth and esophagus. Toxic to cats and dogs.
Propagation: Seeds: Other info: Remove seed from berry which contains chemicals that inhibit germination.
Propagation: Other methods: Division, Offsets, Other: Tuber
Containers: Suitable in 3 gallon or larger
Miscellaneous: Goes Dormant, Deer Resistant, Rabbit Resistant
Evan
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dave
Sep 11, 2012 2:47 PM CST

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Both are done!
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eclayne
Sep 11, 2012 2:52 PM CST

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Thanks much Dave. Thumbs up Thumbs up
Evan
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dave
Sep 11, 2012 3:12 PM CST

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I tip my hat to you. and thank you!
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 12, 2012 12:53 PM CST

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Dave, please add Parent entry Spathoglottis: Ground Orchids (Spathoglottis)
Evan
Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 12, 2012 2:51 PM CST

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Done!
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 12, 2012 3:22 PM CST

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Thumbs up Thumbs up
One more:
Alocasia: Elephant Ears (Alocasia) (Alocasia)
Common names: Upright Elephant Ear Elephant's Ear
Plant Habit: Herb/Forb
Life cycle: Perennial
Leaves: Good growing season color
Flower Time: Other: Seasonal.
Flower Form: Spadix
Underground structures: Rhizome
Toxicity: Other: All parts of plant contain calcium oxalate crystals, an irritant to the mouth and esophagus. Toxic to cats and dogs.
Propagation: Seeds: Other info: Remove seeds from berry which contains chemicals that inhibit germination.
Propagation: Other methods: Division, Offsets
Miscellaneous: Deer Resistant, Rabbit Resistant
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Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 14, 2012 11:49 PM CST

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Dave, please modify the Canna parent entry as follows: Cannas (Canna)

Matching plants under this entry: If this is for all of genus Canna then delete Canna x generalis which are hybrids.
Flower Form: Raceme
Propagation: Other methods: Add Division
Containers: Delete Needs excellent drainage in pots as some Canna are suitable for water gardens or bogs.
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Sep 18, 2012 9:09 AM CST

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Thanks Evan, all of this has been done.

The children plants still have "Needs excellent drainage in pots" because once copied down from the parent, it can't be automatically removed (there's a long story behind that. If you want to know, I'll tell it.)

So if you want me to remove that from all the children, I can script it pretty quick. Just let me know.
Name: Evan
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eclayne
Sep 18, 2012 10:09 AM CST

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Dave, Thanks for the update. I don't think you need to remove "Needs excellent drainage in pots". I can deal with those individually once I've identified the ones involved. Of course, if it involves a big majority of the entries I may take you up on that offer. Green Grin! Sorry, you must have indicated that data can't be removed in the dim and distant ATP past because this rings a bell.
Evan
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dave
Sep 18, 2012 10:13 AM CST

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I tip my hat to you.
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Oct 7, 2012 9:11 PM CST
>> Funny you should ask. I was going to make a separate post about "Suitable as Annual" and "Suitable as a houseplant" and how we define them.

I recently added several annual vegetables, marking the Life Style as Annual, plus "Vegetable" and then also checked the "Suitable as Annual" field without giving it enough thought.

Would you suggest that I remove the redundant "Suitable as Annual" check from the Annual Vegetables I added?

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zuzu
Oct 7, 2012 10:41 PM CST

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I already removed them, Rick. If you're talking about the ones I approved, I subsequently deleted the "suitable as annual" information.
Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Oct 7, 2012 11:01 PM CST
Thanks, and I won't check that for vegetables in the future.

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