Gardening for Butterflies, Birds and Bees forum: Scotts fined $12.5 for insectcide in bird seed

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Name: Paul
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paulgrow
Sep 20, 2012 1:16 PM CST
Read the entire story here.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/greenliving/Scotts-Miracl...
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Name: Linda
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LindaTX8
Sep 22, 2012 10:27 PM CST
It's pretty obvious that the company executives knew what they did was wrong and they did it anyway.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Sep 30, 2012 10:50 AM CST
Yeah, I won't buy anything from Scotts: Miracle grow, Ortho or anything else. In my eyes, they're right up there with Monsanto and Cargill - the world be damned as long as we get our cash.

BTW, found this on Wikipedia: The company reported $2.8 billion in worldwide sales in FY 11 (Sept.) . So that fine didn't even make them blink.
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purpleinopp
Oct 8, 2012 12:45 PM CST
What a silly company. They won't hire people who smoke, but look at their poisons!
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LindaTX8
Oct 8, 2012 1:21 PM CST
I hate that the U.S. encouraged the whole GMO & Roundup Ready crops. I was listening to a guy Saturday that was talking about pollinators and butterflies. He said that there used to be large agricultural areas in some states that had just tons of milkweeds...not to mention other host plants for butterflies. The Monarchs would use the milkweeds during the growing season...now, all that is almost gone due to GMO. Milkweeds in particular have alsmost disappeared in some states. One reason for the decline of Monarchs. He came to Texas to give a talk because it's such an important state for butterflies. He painted a dim picture for the future of certain butterfly species if all that habitat loss continues.
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad
Name: Trish
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Trish
Oct 8, 2012 3:39 PM CST

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sheryl said:Yeah, I won't buy anything from Scotts: Miracle grow, Ortho or anything else. In my eyes, they're right up there with Monsanto and Cargill - the world be damned as long as we get our cash.

BTW, found this on Wikipedia: The company reported $2.8 billion in worldwide sales in FY 11 (Sept.) . So that fine didn't even make them blink.


I agree Angry

BTW, Sheryl- did you move yet??
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Name: Caroline Scott
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CarolineScott
Oct 8, 2012 4:59 PM CST
Fines don't work with the big international corporations!
Suspending them from all business operations might work, but then the little guys who work for them are hurt!
It is a problem which won't be solved easily.
Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Oct 13, 2012 4:00 PM CST
Hi Trish, yep, we're just about settled in, FINALLY!

I completely agree, Caroline, it's a travesty that corporations are so out of control. Grumbling
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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Dec 13, 2012 6:19 AM CST
sheryl said:Yeah, I won't buy anything from Scotts: Miracle grow, Ortho or anything else. In my eyes, they're right up there with Monsanto and Cargill - the world be damned as long as we get our cash.

BTW, found this on Wikipedia: The company reported $2.8 billion in worldwide sales in FY 11 (Sept.) . So that fine didn't even make them blink.


I agree nodding

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Name: Marilyn
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Marilyn
Dec 13, 2012 6:21 AM CST
Sheryl,

Did you move from TN? I remembered seeing TN when you first came to ATP.
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Name: Carole
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SongofJoy
Dec 13, 2012 6:56 AM CST
Angry Not Angry at you, Marilyn, but at the Scotts situation.
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Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Dec 13, 2012 6:44 PM CST
I agree

Scotts Grumbling Blinking Thumbs down Angry Crying
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Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Dec 14, 2012 12:50 PM CST
Yep, I moved *back* to Phoenix, which is where we moved to Tennessee *from*.... good memory, woman!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Dec 14, 2012 11:59 PM CST
sheryl said:Yep, I moved *back* to Phoenix, which is where we moved to Tennessee *from*.... good memory, woman!


Hilarious! Thumbs up Green Grin!

How long did you live in TN?

Welcome to the Agastache and Salvias Forum!

Hummingbirds are beautiful flying jewels in the garden!


Name: Sheryl
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sheryl
Jan 26, 2013 11:52 PM CST
Sorry, Marilyn - took time off to have a temporary job, but boy, am I glad to over *that* phase!

I lived in Tennessee for a bit over 6 years. There were both good and bad things, but all in all, I'm glad I went and I'm glad to be back!
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


Name: Marilyn
Northern KY (Zone 6a)
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Marilyn
Apr 30, 2013 12:30 PM CST
Thumbs up
Welcome to the Agastache and Salvias Forum!

Hummingbirds are beautiful flying jewels in the garden!


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