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Oct 24, 2012 11:35 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Someone gave me this planter full of unknowns.
I need help with the large bluegreen one and the variegated trailler

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Oct 25, 2012 7:00 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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The top one appears to be a Graptopetalum and the bottom one may be a variation of Portulacaria. The latter is just a guess.
I garden for the pollinators.
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Oct 25, 2012 7:15 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Thanks a guess from you is better than groaping around with me

I googled portulacarea and it does ahve a varieagated variety.
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Oct 25, 2012 7:53 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Oct 25, 2012 7:55 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

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That second one does look like Portulacaria, possibly P. afra 'Variegata':
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Oct 25, 2012 8:01 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Yes, that's what I thought too, Lin, except the variety I'm familiar with has the variegation along the margins of the leaves rather than medial. This could be another variety. I don't know for sure. While P. afra 'Variegata' is frequently an upright grower, it can sprawl or weep like that. And there is another variety that has that growth habit, but i don't remember the name.
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Oct 25, 2012 8:13 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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I found this photo called P. afra cv. medio picta that looks similar: http://www.highlandsucculents.... but I don't know if that is a legitimate name; I couldn't find any information about it.
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Oct 25, 2012 8:31 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Your both right. There are tons of pix on google.
Guess I wont worry about pests in Z6a. Elephants are listed as the only one.
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Oct 25, 2012 8:38 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Oct 25, 2012 8:54 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Yes, that's the variety methinks, Lin.

Jo Ann ... you have no problems with those pesky elephants?? Hilarious!
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Oct 25, 2012 10:03 AM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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In mid July I found large deposits of excrament in the lawn.I thought Buffalo had come thru in the middle of the night but it was just deer eating out the middle of DD's pole beans.

OMG I had no idea.
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Oct 25, 2012 10:47 AM CST
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Jo Ann, I will have to decline your 2 first images in the pending queue as it is not Graptopetalum paraguayense, which has fatter leaves and is smaller. Lynn has a good example of it.


Yours show a larger plant with flat 'leaves' and a different shape to them.
I thought that it could be a Graptoveria of some kind, it does resemble the popular 'Fred Ives', your images resemble many of the ones in the database entry.
Graptoveria (XGraptoveria 'Fred Ives')
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Oct 25, 2012 11:18 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I am racking my brain trying to remember where I saw a plant identical to the one you have Jo Ann. I'm not at home right now, so can't search for it. Will try to find it later this evening.
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Oct 25, 2012 11:23 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Well, Graptopetalum and Graptoveria generally have different blooms and colors so when it blooms, you should be able to get a better idea of which it is.
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Oct 25, 2012 11:32 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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I agree
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Oct 25, 2012 3:44 PM CST
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Name: Jo Ann Gentle
Pittsford NY (Zone 6a)
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Dont sweat it ladies.
I was just curious.
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Oct 25, 2012 11:42 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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Here, but don't ask me the ID of any of them. I know very lax of me but i have not gotten down to ID'ing them. It seems that i am more into ID'ing wild flora. *Blush* As i have got enough hints on this thread, maybe today.
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Oct 26, 2012 1:05 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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Check this link and this name
http://www.tropicos.org/Image/...
Graptophyllum pictum. If it is a synonym then, i am very bad at that part.
Graptophyllum hortense.
Justicia picta.
"An erect, up to 2.5 (-3) m tall shrub. Leaves shortly petiolate, ovate-elliptic, 10-20 x 5-12 cm, glabrous, purplish or green mottled with yellow, basally attenuate, entire, acuminate-acute. Flowers dark purple or crimson, c. 4.5-5 cm long; pedicels c. 5 mm long; in terminal panicles of cymes; peduncle sparingly puberulous; bracts and bracteoles inconspicuous. Calyx lobes linear, c. 3-4 mm long. Corolla glabrous externally, glandular-pubescent within, c. 2 cm across, tube narrow cylindrical, c. 1.5 cm long, upper lip erect, lower lip reflexed. Stamens exserted, attached at the throat of tube, filaments c. 5 mm long; staminodes linear, c. 1.5 mm long, Ovary oblong, c. 2.5 mm long; style c. 2.5 cm long."
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