Julie, OMG you are right!!! There are two yellow ones. I thought I was supposed to be in region 11. The whole state of Va. was in region 11. But now that you mention region 3, I can see that they are yellow also, just a different shade. OMG, I have been going nuts!!!!!!!
Thank you so much, I don't know why I did not notice that. (JEEPERS!!!!)

Holy Cow, maybe now I can get somewhere with this. Thank you soooooooooooooooo much!!!


Yes tink, I believe it was after September, because I got a partial and a full year! Thanks!

That's why I had to get rid of the email robin. There was like hundreds of emails from people I did not know talking to people I did not know and they were not even in my zone!!!! I kept SMH * I got so stressed out it was crazy!!! I did eventually figure out the option 1, but still was not getting any information I could use. I wanted to hear from people in my zone and find out what does well HERE..

I just need to regroup. I will redo it all under the right region very soon. This is going to be wonderful, I am so excited and relieved at same time. I can't wait to go to a Display Garden!!!

(smacking-my-head)

I dropped the robin too

I set up a separate "mailbox" in my inbox for the Robin. I made a "rule" that any message coming from the robin address goes into that mailbox. I look them over, read what I want, delete the rest.

You could also use a separate email address for the Robin - such as setting up a Yahoo, Gmail, etc. account. Then the messages would not flood your personal email.

Many of the regions have robins. I'm in region 2 and I know they have a yahoo group.

I think when I set up region three I will appreciate the email a lot more. I was ok with the daily digest. It just did not give me time to figure it all out before they bombarded me with mail. Why doesn't it start off with the digest. I would love the digest if it is from people in my zone, I just needed some useful information and I was not getting it. I got frustrated and sent some guy an email, I don't remember his name but I am sure he remembers mine.

I belong to the AHS Robin and just get a daily message in digest form which includes all the messages from everyone in one single message. I like the digest form message much better rather than a ton of messages it works for me. Plus if I don't want to recieve the daylily message when I am gone I can stop it and then have it restarted when I return. I don't often participate but do read it most of the time sometimes I learn some interesting information.

RE:
"That's why I had to get rid of the email robin. There was like hundreds of emails from people I did not know talking to people I did not know and they were not even in my zone!!!! I kept SMH * I got so stressed out it was crazy!!! I did eventually figure out the option 1, but still was not getting any information I could use. I wanted to hear from people in my zone and find out what does well HERE.. "


What's with all this business about hundreds of emails from the robin? HA! Sometimes there's none on a day, sometimes there might be a dozen. And yes, notes are posted from all over the country. One from Lithunia today from a young one who is just trying to start a daylily business. I love to learn about other areas.

But....there's archives! And once you hear from some members that post about your area, you can search the archives for their posts.

BTW, Julie, who wrote to you is our AHS Pres! And she lives in VA! Margo Reed and Jim Murphy are quite active on the Spider Robin and both have lots in the AHS archives (from the mother robin)

Juli, mod from here has a great idea for setting up a daylily email.


Where you should be looking for more info about YOUR AREA would be the REGIONAL NEWSLETTER and if you belong to a club, they often have a club newsletter.

Hope you give it a try again. BTW, this is a great group as well!

Thank you! I will try again.

What do they mean by 'Spider Ratio' and what is the number for?? How do I know what is a good number??

To be a spider, I believe it has to have a 4 to 1 ratio. The longest petal ( length) must be four times the width of the petal. I think thats right.

Susan, Pam is right. The longest petal (usually the bottom one) must be four times (or more) longer than the width at the widest part of the petal. http://www.daylilies.org/ahs_d...

There really is no "good number" so to speak, it's just whatever you like

Sounds good to me! I like what I like and that is that!!

I have a general question I saw.... somewhere

Someone has been given 150 daylilies that someone else didnt plant or want anymore. They live where it is now below freezing at night and was wondering the bet thing to do with the plants. They are cut back and mostly roots, some with a bit of freeze damage. They wanted to know if they should go ahead and pot them up. I suggested that they put peat around the roots and take them in the garage till freezing temps are gone. I told them about the crown being the 'weak link' and to keep it dry. Was this right or totally off the mark?? I believe they are going to check out this web site but dont want to leave up wrong info elsewhere.

Yes, I recently got some dormant daylilies from up north and did research the matter. That is what they do. they dry them out real good and throw them into a bin till spring.

I have been doing some reading and it seems that it is harder to treat a daylily for rust after you have already planted it. And I know it is good to soak them before you plant them.
If you see rust on a daylily can you dig it up and cut the foliage off and soak it? Seems like that is the only way to get rid of all of the spores. I do like the Bayer 3-n-1 though, it said it is for rust, so should you put it down first thing in spring for all the daylilies or just put it down if you see rust on one at a time. Seems like if you wait till it shows up then you risk it spreading.
Here is the bad news, I planted 125 daylilies in the fall and knew nothing about rust so now I an trying to fix this before they all rot or something. There are a few I planted that are very susceptible and my plans were to dig them up and isolate them in a pot. But if this can spread by critters and wind maybe I should just throw them into the trash. I just don't think they are worth the risk and most of the susceptible ones were cheap daylilies to begin with.
I read something about temperatures, we almost got down to 20° one night, how long does it have to be at or below 20° to kill the rust?

Susan, I can't answer all of your questions, but I would relax on the rust stuff. Don't think about throwing them in the trash, there are some beautiful flowers waiting to see the sun.

And winter is just beginning - there are a lot of days between now and spring.

I have even had rust in my northern garden. I just put up with it, and hope it all dies over the winter. I cut back the all the plants in the affected section of the garden and tossed it out with the trash. (didn't mulch them) Granted, my harsher winters can kill more rust that yours can, but for now, I would relax about it.

I don't pay much attention to prevention at this point, but I know there are others on this forum that live in approximately your zone and can help you better than myself. They will probably chime in. But for now, I wouldn't waste a lot of energy worrying about it. In reality, the majority of daylilies are pretty hardy, that is why they are so popular ~j

I agree with Jan. Dont fret over the rust, especially, like he said, winter isnt even over. Its when you come home from vacation and every single plant is COVERED, that youve got an issue. Even then, the plants are fine, you just have to start all over waiting for new fresh leaves to emerge.

As far as cutting off the leaves, if you do so, make sure that they are wet, as the rust will get airborn and then you will have more infestation. Also, put the leaves in something that wont be used again. In other words, dont just throw the leaves in a big empty pot to take around to the trash later

Also, make sure what your seeing is rust. If it doesnt come off on your fingers when you rub them thru, its not rust. No matter what, the plants will come back.

I have been getting rust on 1 or 2 plants every summer for the past 3 years. I leave it alone too. It usually dies over winter.

I had it in 2001, then never again. I don't dip, spray, or anything to prevent it.

I do spray, sometimes, with Messenger. Only because I bought a lot of it years ago. It helps boost or turn on plant immune system. I don't know if they even make it anymore. Back when rust first started, lots of people tried Messenger and said they still got rust.

I don't add very many plants each year now, but I sure did from 2001-2009.

I don't know why I have not had rust, at least once, since 2001.

I have learned to take a more relaxed attitude about rust. Several years ago we had rust to appear for the first time. It came in on a plant that we had gotten from our spring region meeting from a garden from out of state. The two plants next to it had developed rust, too, once the rust was discovered. I cut the foliage back and treated the plants with the Bayer product that we had on hand. It took care of the problem. I had panicked thinking this is the worst thing possible in the daylily world. A year later I found out there is something much worse that can do much more damage to a daylily (kill it), and that is crown rot. Crown rot helped to adjust my attitude about daylily rust. Since our initial experience with rust and buying large numbers of new daylilies arriving in the spring of each year, we get rust on a few of the new additions to the garden. No matter how hard I try to avoid buying daylilies from rust prone areas, I succumb each year and buy some. We get daylilies each spring from a grower in S. Georgia and get rust on their daylilies every year. I have learned to unload them in front of the house away from the main daylily garden, cut the foliage back, place the foliage in a trash bag, spray the plant and scapes (wipe off the scapes first) with a contact spray, once potted drench with Bayer 3 in 1, and put Bayer 3 and 1 granuales on top of the soil in the pot. This has worked for us. Unfortunately, it is the other daylilies that come in the mail that I let slip by me that bring in the rust. We now spray all of our daylilies for rust. If the rust is caught early, a rust outbreak can be avoided. Rust does not usually appear here until the main bloom season is over, so if left alone it would be bearable. I really expected a bad outbreak of rust last summer because of the mild winter we had last year. The only rust we had were in the areas where we had added new plants last spring. I plan to be more proactive this spring with the daylilies coming in the mail and may be able to prevent any rust from coming into our garden, plus continue to spray our daylilies for rust in the spring when we spray for thrips, aphids, spidermites, leaf miners, etc.

Doris