Cactus and Tender Succulents forum: christmas cactus propagated last year w/growth problem

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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Dec 1, 2012 6:14 PM CST
I propagated a number of different colors of CC about this time last year.Some have had buds,so far none have actually opened.They are also smaller than other plants i've seen propagated at the same time.Taking the fact that mine aren't in a green house & weren't under grow lights.I think my biggest mistake was potting them to soon,before they had a chance to grow thick,strong enough roots,then being put into pots to big for the baby plants.Now that i have learned more and recognize my mistakes.

This year i have put all of my cuttings into the small solo cups not filling the cups up all the way,only misting the cutting every now & then.I never "water" the cuttings without roots.Putting the cuttings into plastic bags is a practice that a lot of people do.I have tried it both ways and i found it works great with or without the bag,whatever works best for you especially central heating systems can take moisture out of the air so the mini plastic bag green houses can help,i have found that it can really help or even be needed on cuttings that are struggling or don't perk back up after a couple of mistings, (i use the produce bags from any grocery store that i purchase produce from,put everything in a bag)they are thin,some tinted green so your cuttings aren't getting strong sun.Poke a few holes and make sure the wet bag doesn't touch the cuttings,it will cause the segment to rot where they touch fast.I use Popsicles sticks to keep the bags from touching the cuttings.

Here's where i think i went wrong unless someone has a suggestion on a better way to do something else i'm doing.Advice & opinion always welcome!!!! Hurray!
What i rooted mine in last year was to big and the cuttings were able to grow long thin scraggly roots instead of having a small compact place so the roots could grow thick & healthy roots.I did re-pot my plants into smaller pots,i also put them in pots that i plan on keeping them in until they grow healthy & bloom healthy.

What can i do to help these plants that are behind to get caught up.They have produced a few small buds,which so far seem to be dropping,none have opened as of yet.
Most CC's are resting after blooming & this is the time to prune.I don't think pruning is a good idea.What about feeding,i use super thrive in every watering and add it to the fertilizer.But usually stop in winter except for plants that are struggling etc... maybe i will continue to add super thrive to the waterings of the starter plants from last year.Super thrive is just vitamins,hormones etc... not fertilizer,or should i give them something to help them grow healthier roots.
These plants were started the same time i started mine!!
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Here's a picture i could find of what mine mostly look like that i propagated luckily i have purchased other beauty's Lovey dubby
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
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a2b1c3
Dec 16, 2012 7:29 PM CST
dumb question you do know they need cold and dark to bloom right?
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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Dec 17, 2012 8:20 AM CST
Yes i do know and they got around 12 -14 hours of dark and temps in the 50's.It was only the ones i started last year,they may just need to grow up a little bit more.

Here's some of my girls blooms,i wish i could get names for my noids.

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'Polka dancer'
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NOID
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Peach's & cream
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This is a noid i was given a cutting of and it bloomed while i was rooting it,i couldn't believe it actually bloomed after only about 2-3 weeks of being put into soil.
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another NOID that i got from a wonderful lady,she thought it was going to be pink,but you can see it doesn't look very pink.It was lighter than the one above it.
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another noid,I don't know how CC's are named,i believe it's by the color of the bloom so i just call them by their colors,I don't think they mind that they are nameless Hilarious!
I only had problems with the ones i propagated last year,that might say something for my propagating skills.Oh well i will wait until next christmas when they are older and more established maybe they will bloom then.
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Name: Cliff Hughes
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Cahac
Dec 17, 2012 8:10 PM CST
a2b1c3 said:dumb question you do know they need cold and dark to bloom right?


Mark,
I certainly hope you didn't mean for this reply to be taken the way i took it .. No call for a remark like this to someone asking a ?

JoJoe,
As for as your ? goes, I don't think i would worry about many blooms now. and go ahead and give your plants some fertilizer. you will probably get a few more blooms now thru spring.. I had a small 1 that bloomed the end of may/1st week of June this past summer. Some just take longer to develop than others.Your yellow 1 looks to be Gold Charm. Not 100% sure without seeing the stamen & anthers color tho. I try to ID mine but if i see 1 i really like,the name doesn't mean anything..LOL
You have some really nice colors there
cliff
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
Dec 17, 2012 8:22 PM CST
Pretty photos Jelinda (Cliff, I think you took Mark's comment the wrong way Rolling on the floor laughing )
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Name: Mark Mallon
seattle wa
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a2b1c3
Dec 17, 2012 9:04 PM CST
ha cliff sorry that's were gramauar and punktwation come in. I am the one asking the dumb question I'm all ears!
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Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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jojoe
Dec 18, 2012 1:43 PM CST
Cliff, thank you very much!!! I wish i had taken more pictures of the blooms that i would like to know the names of.I will look and if i have any more pictures of the yellow blooms i will post them.I always call the blooms gold,they really didn't seem yellow to me but they could be considered yellow as well i guess.


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i found this one kind of quick like
A green thumb comes only as a result of the mistakes you make while learning to see things from the plants point of view!!
Name: Jelinda AKA jojoe Ivey
Thomson,Ga. (Zone 8a)
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Heucheras Plant and/or Seed Trader Hostas Hummingbirder Region: Georgia Cactus and Succulents
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jojoe
Dec 21, 2012 7:24 AM CST
When i seen this i just had to share it,i've never had this happen.I have had cuttings that had buds ready to bloom go ahead and bloom when placed in soil or water.These cuttings have been in soil for about a month & a half or 2.They have grown buds while being rooted,i guess they have grown roots and now i just need to let the roots get well established before i pot them.
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Here are some pictures of some CC's i propagated last year and they didn't have the first bud this year.I am going to have to be patient with these i guess,maybe feed more 15-30-15 during their growing season.

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BlueFox
Jan 23, 2013 7:41 PM CST
What is your soil, jojoe? These are epiphytes, which originate high in tree tops, so if your potting soil has manure in it, that is something they haven't adapted to. They like really aged compost, made with leaves or other organic matter, and prefer something really fast draining. Other people have suggested fertilizer, but there is nothing wrong with the color of your cuttings, they are nice and dark, so I'm not convinced that giving them more fertilizer will help at this stage. They also dislike any kind of minerals in the water (high in the trees, they would only get rainwater), so if you have the chance, capture some rain water, or even buy a bottle of distilled water from the drug store.

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