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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Dec 16, 2012 11:13 PM CST
I begin to start my seeds the 3rd week in January in the house on heat mats. I've been going though my catalog and here is a tentative list .. there will be additions and subtractions in the next few weeks before I get to the final list.

Abutilon - Huella - Abutilon
Abutilon - Rosalie - Abutilon hybridum
Abutilon - Victor Reiter - Abutilon
Angels Fishing Rod - Purple - Dierama pulcherrimum
Angels Fishing Rod - Queen of the Night - Dierama pulcherrimum
Belladonna - Atropa caucasica - Winter Sown 12/17/12
Blanket Flower/Gaillardia - Mutant - Gaillardia ?
Burning Bush - Dictamnus albus - Winter Sown 12/17/12
Calendula - Zeolights - Calendula officinalis
Candle Stick Bush - Cassia alata
Chilean Bell Flower - Lapageria rosea
Chilean Fire Bush - Embothrium coccineum Winter Sown 12/18/12
Cigar Flower - Cuphea lanceolata
Cobra Lily - Chasmanthe floribunda Winter Sown 12/18/12
Corkscrew Vine - Vigna caracalla
Creeping Gloxinia - Brida Bouquet - Asarina erubescens
Daisy African - Osteospermum fruticosum
Dutchman's Pipe - Gigantia - Aristolochia gigantea
Fawn Lily - Tuolumne - Erythronium tuolumnense Winter Sown 12/18/12
Fawn Lily - White - Erythronium oregonum Winter Sown 12/18/12
Freesia - False - Anomatheca laxa Winter Sown 12/18/12
MG - Apricot Candy Ipomoea sloteri
MG - DBP-MBR - F2 - Ipomoea nil - (Double Blue Picotee X Mini-Bar Rose)
MG - DBP-MBR - F3 - Ipomoea nil
MG - DBP-MBR - F3a - Ipomoea nil
MG - DBP-MBR - F4 - Ipomoea nil
MG - Firecracker Vine - Ipomoea lobata
MG - Sepacuitensis - Ipomoea sepacuitensis
MGJ - Aomurasakihigeshibori - OP - Ipomoea purpurea
MGJ - Blue Silk - PB - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Blue Silk ♀ x Rose Silk ♂ F1 - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Blue Silk ♂ x Rose Silk ♀ F1 - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Dbl Blue Picotee - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Fujishibori - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Hige - Pink - OP - Ipomoea purpurea
MGJ - Hige - Possibly Gypsy Bride - Mix - Frame-OP - Ipomoea purpurea
MGJ - Kikyo X Fuji - OP - F2 White-Grow Out OP - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Kikyo Zaki OP Fujishibori - F2 - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Minibar Rose - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Mixed OP - F2 - OP - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Platycodon Blue X Fujishibori - F3 - OP - Ipomoea nil
MGJ - Yojiro Mix - Ipomoea nil
Milkweed - Blue - Southern Star - Tweedia coerulea
Nasturtium - Peach Melba - Tropaeolum majus
Nasturtium Cherry Rose - Tropaeolum majus
Oxalis - Blue - Shamrock Pea - Parochetus communis
Petunia - Dolcissima Flambe F-1 - Petunia multiflora
Petunia 'Opera Supreme F1 Coral
Petunia 'Opera Supreme F1 Lavender'
Petunia 'Opera Supreme F1 Pink Morning
Petunia 'Opera Supreme F1 Purple
Petunia 'Opera Supreme F1 Salmon
Petunia 'Opera Supreme F1 White
Petunia 'Opera Supreme Lilac Ice'
Petunia 'Opera Supreme Windsor'
Zinnia - Mini-Mix - Zinnia
Zinnia - Orange Profusion - Zinnia

I start them in waves. The first wave are usually ones that take a long time to germinate or mature. Once they germinate and get their 2nd set of true leaves they get weaned off the heat and moved to the main greenhouse. I also grow out some of my oldest seeds for fresh seeds and am studying F generations of specific MG crosses to see how the genes move and express themselves.

I'm going to have real problems this year since I have absolutely no space in either greenhouse for anymore plants .. I've got about 8 weeks to figure out what I'm going to do once I start having to move seedlings out. I'm probably going to have to build a temporary cold frame.



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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Dec 17, 2012 9:01 AM CST

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A very ambitious list.

Maybe you should try wintersowing some?

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piksihk
Dec 17, 2012 9:14 AM CST
Wow, Anne, great list. I will be interested in how your Chilean bell flower does. I think someone sent me seeds.

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Dec 17, 2012 9:29 AM CST
I do winter sow the ones that need cold then warm or are Woodland type plants but the majority I'll start indoors - our climate here is really not conducive for Winter Sowing - too many warm ups. This is actually an average size list. I've been doing this for years and years now .. works out pretty well for me. I'll certainly be passing on germination information.

What's everyone else going to be growing for the upcoming year?
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Name: Joanne
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Joannabanana
Dec 17, 2012 9:41 AM CST
Wow, that's is a great list. Some are tough to start and I hope you share the results. I have quite a bit of seed that I bought last year, so my plan is to "not buy" too many more Rolling my eyes. I do have quite a few petunias, but I think I will need some more Hilarious!
We have a Garden Show in mid April with a People's Choice Container competition. My kid like to enter in the Children's category too. Theme this year is Seasons for the Senses. It's always hit & miss to have blooms that early here so I'm going to start some stuff extra early to have a good chance of blooms. I plant to start some Alyssum, Stocks and pansies early January. And found some crocus on clearance, so going to see if I can force those. It will be a big experiment.
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springcolor
Dec 17, 2012 11:04 AM CST
That is a big list. I need to get throught the holidays, then will be gearing up. I'm going to winter sow some and then also in the greenhouse.
First on my list is the Dragon Wing Begonias, they take so long to get going. Then petunias, heliotrope, salpiglossis, Rudbeckia, salvia, cobaea, rhodochiton and I'm sure a few more.

I have daylily seeds and pelargonium and coleus cuttings growing already.
I have a little plant sale here around the end of May to sell the extras. There always is extra, crazy plant lady, even after giving to friends. I call the sale Hobby Gone Wild Sale. Working in the greenhouse helps with light deprviation depression.

Dec. 21 is all most here, then the days get longer!!!!!1 Hurray! Hurray! Big Grin
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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Dec 17, 2012 11:27 AM CST
I've never seen seeds on my Wing Begonias .. do you have to hand pollinate, are they self fertile? I'll probably end up winter sowing all the seeds that eventually form into bulbs like the Fawn Lily - I use window boxes. How do you treat your rhodochiton seeds? I haven't had very much luck with them and tried pretty much every technique I can think of.

I always start some Vigna and Cassia every year as they are good trading currency and of course any extras I can't use are traded as well.

The picture is of the Belladonna, Atropa caucasica and Burning Bush, Dictamnus albus I Winter Sowed yesterday .. I use window boxes and put a cage of hardware cloth over it so the squirrels can't get to them.


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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Dec 17, 2012 1:20 PM CST
Joanne,
Your wrote a great piece on how to grow petunias, i made a hard copy but it has gone AWAL. Can you link me up?

Xeramthem, The rhodochiton do take a long time to come up. I have just followed the directions on the seed pk. I use plastic domes on all germinating seeds.
These are the directions on the PKG.
Place seed on the surface of good free draining soil-based potting mix ( I use redi-earth) and cover with a very light sprinkling of vermiculite( I don't do this part, just put seed on the surface of the moist soil).Place in a propagator or sealed container in side a polythene bad and keep at 68-77F until after germination which takes 12-40 days. If they need to be watered I use a spray bottle and I use a bit of chamomile tea in the water. I get about 80% germination. This is all done in the greenhouse and use a heat mat with a thermostat.
I know you grow a ton of things, seen you post on DG so, this is just basic stuff to you. Thats my way and it works.

Karen,
I going to winter sow his year after reading all your info last year. I can hardly wait. This will free up so much room in my greenhouse. Hurray! Hurray!
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Joannabanana
Dec 17, 2012 2:51 PM CST
springcolor,

Is it one of these? I had to split them into 2 parts for each. They are slides from two workshops I did a few years ago.

Petunias Part 1
http://cubits.org/Germination/files/get/2011-03-04/Joannaban...
Petunias Part 2
http://cubits.org/Germination/files/get/2011-03-04/Joannaban...

Seed Starting Part 1
http://cubits.org/Germination/files/get/2011-01-04/Joannaban...
Seed Starting Part 2
http://cubits.org/Germination/files/get/2011-01-04/Joannaban...

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Name: Julia
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springcolor
Dec 17, 2012 4:26 PM CST
Joanne
I think those are all the same links. Not the one but I like this and will print it off. I think it was on a tread, it was about how to care for them in the greenhouse after germination. Maybe how to make a petunia basket.
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Joannabanana
Dec 17, 2012 5:17 PM CST
I'm not sure which thread it could be on. I fixed the links on the previous post though. The planting of the basket was called Big Balls of Colour and there was another called Flower Power. You can click on my name and you will see the links for the Gardening Ideas articles. Or look through some of the older threads in Annuals or Seeds that had been moved from Cubits.
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springcolor
Dec 17, 2012 9:13 PM CST
Thanks Joanne
I have done that and found so much good info. Big Grin Big Grin
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Onewish1
Dec 18, 2012 4:34 AM CST

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wow impressive list for sure!!!
Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Dec 18, 2012 5:41 AM CST

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I don't have a list of seeds to start yet. My list will evolve as I sow them. Hilarious! I have a few dragon wing begonias to start under lights first. Spring is right, they're really slowpokes! Xeramtheum, dragon wings are sterile plants, they don't produce seeds. That probably accounts for their non-stop blooming.

I have a few echinacea Cheyenne Spirit to try too. I'll most likely wintersow those.

My flower beds were stuffed full early last summer. But the heat and drought and bugs were too much, and I had losses. I lost a lot of echinacea to aster yellows. I also lost a few things I think, to the extreme heat and drought. We still have a rain deficit of 5" for the year. But I have to wait and see what returns to know how much I can plant. I might be filling a lot of holes in the garden by direct-sowing annuals. Shrug! (I also planted a few new perennials that I bought from Santa Rosa in the fall).

I also want to try a few seeds with JonnaSudenius's straight vermiculite method. I don't know which seeds, but the technique intrigues me.

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CarolineScott
Dec 18, 2012 7:16 AM CST
I just ordered seeds from the NARGS seed exchange so depending on what they send----
those will probably be winter sowed.
Under lights: petunias only this year.
I am trying some fall direct seeding: larkspur, aquilegia, Iceland poppy, wallflowers, for-get-me-nots.
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RickCorey
Dec 18, 2012 3:04 PM CST
Poppies (outside, soon)
Petunias
Violas
Salvias
try Lupines & Larkspur this year (new to me)
Snow Peas
Snap Pea 'Sugar Ann'
Bok Choy, Tatsoi, Komatsuna
Tomatoes: Sungold F1, Oregon Spring and ??
Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Dec 19, 2012 9:29 AM CST
Nice list Rick .. I should probably throw some poppy seeds into my front bed. kqcrna is that true of all "Winged" begonias like the Angels Wings? Sterile or not self pollinating? I've never really gotten serious with begonias because they need to be overwintered in the greenhouse and space is extremely limited but I do love them.

Yesterday I winter sowed Chilean Fire Bush, Embothrium coccineum - Cobra Lily, Chasmanthe floribunda - Fawn Lily - Tuolumne, Erythronium tuolumnense - Fawn Lily - White, Erythronium oregonum - False Freesia, Anomatheca laxa and Primula - Victorian Lace, Primula x elatior.

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Name: Karen
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kqcrna
Dec 19, 2012 9:54 AM CST

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Xeramtheum, I don't know the answer to your question about begonias. But I'm sure it's true of dragon wings.
http://www.learn2grow.com/gardeningguides/annuals/featuredpl...

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Name: Rick Corey
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RickCorey
Dec 19, 2012 3:53 PM CST
I started expanding my wishlist to the varieties I have that I would like to have room for. (I wish I could paste a table! Let's see if this is readable:

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Name: Anne
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Xeramtheum
Dec 19, 2012 4:10 PM CST
That's awesome!
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