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Jan 30, 2021 9:09 PM CST
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Name: Elizabeth
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I don't know the answer, but you could try submitting your query to the Plant ID forum on this site. Most such queries generate at least partial, if not complete answers.
https://garden.org/forums/view...
You wouldn't have to reload the shot. Just include the URL for your photo. If someone does successfully identify a species or a grex, you could then request your photo be moved to the relevant page in the database. Look for the links in the "Actions" area at the bottom of the page for the individual photo.
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Jan 31, 2021 9:55 AM CST
Name: Sandra Pruden
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It's just a NOID. Phals are pretty much impossible to ID.
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Jan 31, 2021 10:27 AM CST
Name: Kim
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I'll take your word for it Sandra, but just in case I'll tag the orchid experts:
@Ursula @BigBill @drdawg
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Jan 31, 2021 10:27 AM CST
Name: Big Bill
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I will mention this again since I told jbc this yesterday.

With any multigenerational hybrid that may be a result of 30 to 75 years of breeding, an exact hybrid name is 99.9999992% impossible. A guess would be a million to one longshot!
This is even more difficult in Phalaenopsis and Cattleyas. Why? They have been bred the most over time.
The one chance that would give you the best hope of getting a correct name would be if it was a mericlone that was very popular and widely distributed. You would hope that some body might recognize it.
Otherwise it is hopeless.
Species are completely different. There I think that with a species, you have a 90+% chance of getting it identified. No other plant or genes are involved.

Another big problem is with a seed pod from a cross, you might raise 10,000 seedlings!!! In a cross of a couple of complex hybrids you could produce seedlings where 500 look like this, 300 like this, 200 like this, all the way down to 6 that look like this and 5 that look like this and so on. You could easily end up with dozens of types of seedlings. It all depends upon genetics! You see how pinning an exact plant is made EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA impossible when it could look like 20 or 30 different things. How can you pin a correct name on it????

Cattleya intermedia is a species!! Genus is always capitalized, species is always lower case. That is the unbreakable rule.
In hybrids, Cattleya Bob Betts. Genus is capitalized, hybrid or grex name is also capitalized!!! That too should be an unbroken rule!
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Jan 31, 2021 1:07 PM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
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I agree with Bill, 100%. It's virtually impossible to ID the vast majority of orchids simply by presenting photographs. That is especially true when it comes to Phal. These have been produced by the millions by the huge, overseas growers, and there are many thousands of hybrids being produced. There are a few Phal. that are the older hybrids, flowers that are truly unique, but that "purple" isn't unique in any way. It's beautiful, just not unique.
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