Moss Tales

By Sharon
February 5, 2013

Moss, that green slipcover on rocks and sides of trees and old shoes left outside too long; it's moss that lets us know all's well in our environment.

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Feb 6, 2013 8:21 PM CST
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It is beautiful. Just a short period during summer drought (Aug & Sep) with it going dormant. Even with that there are shady, moist areas that keep the moss green.
What memories Little Ethan is storing up. Lovey dubby
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Feb 6, 2013 8:24 PM CST
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Truth is, Ethan can tell a story about as well as I can. *Blush*
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Feb 6, 2013 8:28 PM CST
Name: Lynn
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He has been learning from the best. And it is probably in his blood. Smiling
Story telling is a gift.
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Feb 6, 2013 9:13 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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I thought dream time was in another set of genes?
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Feb 6, 2013 9:16 PM CST
Name: Sharon
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Big Grin Arif!
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Feb 6, 2013 10:44 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
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Ok! Me bad *Blush*
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Arif.
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Feb 6, 2013 10:50 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri (Zone 9a)
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Australian by the way. I tip my hat to you.
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Feb 6, 2013 11:05 PM CST
Name: Sharon
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Aborigine, yes.

I thought it unique, combination of Native American and Australian aboriginal; big waters to cross - that.
Not your bad, just my little fun thought. Big Grin

(edited because I momentarily lost my spelling gene!)
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Feb 6, 2013 11:28 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
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Is any body 100% sure that it was only the aborigine's of Australia or Native American that can lay claim to dream time? What about the Sufi's and Saddus of South Asia up to? What are the followers of Buddha up to in Monasteries of Tibet and Nepal? The best part is, what were the Abrahamic prophets up to and what about the animist recluses in the mountains of Kafiristan? I wish I had looked up this subject further when I was young and could see without glasses. Sharon we need a bit of insight into Extra Sensory Perception ESP to even start to unravel what is going on in the mystical or metaphysical world. The search for the TRUTH. What is TRUTH?
Same old dilemma that the philosophers faced, how can a being come out of non being? Funny aspect about it all, leads in one TRUE direction only.
Large Hadron Collider , LHC. When they find the Bison, what will they find after? Man reaching towards God Hood Confused that I am quite sure he wont like.
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Feb 6, 2013 11:39 PM CST
Name: Sharon
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I have no answers, Arif, because who is to know if those old ancient cultures and the modern ones were/are influenced by consumption of plants or inhalation of gases or the hallucinations that come with food or sleep or water deprivation? And who is to know if they are meaningful symbolic dreams?

We can believe what we will, but we will never know the truth because truth will be something different for everyone who searches. And the final answers might be different as well.

And so we speak in riddles and go in circles and wish to dream.
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Feb 6, 2013 11:47 PM CST
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But will find out the truth one day when it is to late to make amends. I know, just sad. For some wealth and money is truth without any moral obligations. For some a life of penury but morally rigid. Who will win, time will tell.
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Feb 7, 2013 12:10 AM CST
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And there are those of us who fit in neither of those two categories and do not consider it a race to win.
We do the best we can with what we have and strive to harm no one. Perhaps there is truth there as well.
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Feb 7, 2013 2:42 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
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That by the way is the goal, is it not? The essence is in what you wrote. Naf's(Ego) but destroying ones ego takes a life time.
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Feb 7, 2013 8:05 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
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With this last rain spell I found moss growing on my lawn? No need to look for it, in the morning I will prepare a culture and spread it on my bricks. Now for Liverworts, Spleenworts and what not worts. Then wild Sedums and Ferns. Slowly, slowly catch a monkey.
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Feb 7, 2013 8:41 AM CST
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Whoa, from sweet (and informative) story about moss to musings about dream time and our place in the scheme of things. I'm going to have to watch this thread. Veerrry interesting!
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Feb 7, 2013 9:30 AM CST
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Sharon, I really really really wish you would record when you are telling Ethan your stories. Someday, waaaaaaaaaay down the road, like 50 years from now, he and his children and grandchildren will treasure hearing your voice Lovey dubby Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Feb 7, 2013 9:46 AM CST
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That's just an Excellent article; my favorite to date.
Nothing that's been done can ever be changed.
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Feb 7, 2013 10:53 AM CST
Name: Sharon
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Talk of ancient moss brings out the ancient musings in all of us which of course can easily turn to philosophy and start carving an entirely new path.

I sure wish we'd get a monsoon or two over here, Arif, just enough to hold on to a little bit of moss and worts and maybe a trillium or two. At the moment the only moss growing around here might be only in my mind.

Bubbles, hang around, it can only get better, surely.

Jmorth, very sweet words especially from you.

Vic, if I did that, by the time his children and grandchildren were ready to listen, there would be no device that would play whatever I recorded. Might as well just write.

Moss, maybe it's a little like comfort food.
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Feb 7, 2013 1:25 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
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Bubbles like that nick, yes hang on and hold on to your hat. You never know where Sharon and I end up. Sharon I am not getting a feel of your environment except that you are near two rivers and no subsoil water. Get snow storms in winter but beyond that zilch. What is the place like, you are so good at describing why cannot you describe your area as if I am seeing it.
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Feb 7, 2013 1:45 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Calvert City, KY (Zone 7a)
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This was once hilly farmland, Arif, rich fertile soil all around. The soil is still good, so I should not complain. We have been getting fewer snows, maybe no more than an inch a year, and the rains are fewer as well. It has become drought ridden, more like a prairie and those very sensitive plants, like mayapples and trillium and ferns have a difficult time surviving here anymore, though they did in the past. They sprout up in April and by the end of June they are dried and crunchy with no signs of even the foliage. But they still make an attempt every year.

Two years ago we had an April flood, water was everywhere and though some seed crops were lost, there was time to plant again. We have over 200 days of growing weather usually, but after the flood, then the drought hit and the crops didn't come into fruition, so it's a vicious learning cycle now. And it's vastly different from about 30 years ago when we had heavy snow cover for all of January and February and normal crops for many years. Haven't seen a deep snow in a very long time.

The lakes are man made and their depth is controlled by dams and the rivers that are their source. The Mississippi River nearby is very low and commercial traffic has come to a standstill. The Ohio River is flowing fairly well, and so are the Tennessee and the Cumberland. The Ohio and the Cumberland are sourced by the mountains to the east and the Tennessee begins slightly to the east in Tennessee; so our rivers come from east of us; I think the Mississippi might start in Minnesota, not sure about that. I'm not a true geography person, sadly. Anyway, the heat and drought are coming from the west and meeting the rivers, which are flowing from the east. The meeting place of the forces is right here where I am and near where Tee is, just to the south of me.

Sometimes the rivers win and sometimes the winds and heat of the prairies win, so it's an ongoing battle currently. It will evolve into something, not sure what. Confused
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