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May 21, 2010 5:19 PM CST
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Toni, you must watch Casablanca (Ingrid Bergman & Humphrey Bogart). In that movie Bergman - to people my age and older - almost defines "classy lady." But, who knows, maybe Casablanca would seem like an offbeat comedy? Two friends my age laughed their way through Cleopatra (Elizabeth Taylor & Richard Burton). I understood their mirth, but was not struck quite the same way.

Interesting that Ingrid Bergman would suffer in real life as she suffers in the movie: in one case being married to a wooden and unappreciative husband, in another being married to a wooden and unappreciative audience. I spent some of my formative years overseas; I never heard that story before. Yet somehow tragic characters command yet more pathos, do they not? I'm glad she got a pretty good red HT named in her honor.

I think if there were a rose that got tall, spread widely, had vicious thorns, choked out everything in its path, and looked simultaneously gorgeous and bone-chillingly menacing it would have to be called Joan Crawford.
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May 21, 2010 5:33 PM CST
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But no one would buy it. Who wants Joan Crawford in the garden?

Ingrid Bergman's scandal happened in 1950. She was even denounced on the floor of the U.S. Senate. She had to leave the country for six years. I was living in Japan for half of that time and was a little kid, but I heard a lot about it. My oldest sister had lots of U.S. Army boyfriends, so we knew a lot about what was going on in America.

The first movie I ever saw was "Joan of Arc." Someone evidently thought it was a good idea to take a 6-year-old to a movie where someone (Ingrid Bergman) gets burned at the stake. I crawled under the chair and wouldn't come out. My favorite Bergman movie is "Cactus Flower."
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May 21, 2010 5:42 PM CST
Name: Toni
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I would definitely buy a Joan Crawford...and you described the rose perfectly except that it would be mandated that you'd have to encase the blooms in silicone after they started to age. Hilarious! but why would George burns (a cantankerous man in his entirity) be named after such a beautiful rose? I'd envisioned Austrian Copper to be a better fit.
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May 21, 2010 7:08 PM CST
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You're making me feel old again. George Burns was popular all his life, known mainly for being a devoted husband, and was universally liked. I don't remember him ever being cantankerous, although he certainly would have had good reason to be when he was closing in on 100.
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May 21, 2010 9:54 PM CST
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I love ingrid Bergman. Lucky for me my mom loved to watch a.m.c. movies growing up. Her daughter Isabella is wonderful also and so pretty. I can't get enough of the green porno films. They are riot.... If you have not seen them yet you can watch them online.
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May 21, 2010 9:58 PM CST
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May 21, 2010 10:11 PM CST
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i had to bring a bloom inside they are so pretty

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the same picture of pops, absolutely, baby blanket and dr. k.c. chan but in full bloom and further away two days ago.

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