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Jul 24, 2013 5:28 AM CST
Name: Roxanne Moskal
Near Pittsburgh, PA (Zone 6a)
Tropicals
That's too bad, I was really looking forward to the stuff I ordered. Some have been on my wish list for a long time Guess I'll just keep on wishin and lookin.
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Jul 25, 2013 9:15 AM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Hoping you are able to get the plants you want, Roxanne. I understand that feeling.... but it's wonderful when you *do* get them (and I don't kill them, lol!)
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jul 27, 2013 9:35 AM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Well, and to further complicate matters, the spreadsheet and other accounts Mike had have been hacked into. Not a total loss, but please keep any e-mails, tree-mails or anything you have to document your purchase if you haven't received either plants or a refund.

I have completed the last three requests for refunds, if there's anyone else who needs either plants or a refund, please post A.S.A.P..... this needs to get wrapped up as soon as possible.
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jul 27, 2013 10:31 AM CST
Name: Suzanne Green
South Georgia
A Real Gardening Addict
Charter ATP Member Butterflies Bulbs Daylilies Echinacea Region: Georgia
Heucheras Roses Seller of Garden Stuff
I want to make a public expression of gratitude to Sheryl for processing my requested refund. Before the refund....I had decided not to participate in any future coops here or Cubits. After refund, I will give it consideration, just may not jump in with both feet. Thanks.
Gardening requires lots of water - most of it in the form of perspiration. ~Lou Erickson
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Jul 27, 2013 11:08 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
The WITWIT Badge I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Dog Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters Container Gardener Seed Starter
Suzanne, this is a very rare situation. I have bought many plants and other gardening items through co-ops, here, on Cubits and over on DG back when I was a member. I have never had a problem. Mike's entire life has gone through a major meltdown. Please don't judge either him or co-ops in general from this one.

And my thanks to you as well, Sheryl, for helping out. Thumbs up
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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Jul 27, 2013 11:12 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
woofie said: Mike's entire life has gone through a major meltdown. Please don't judge either him or co-ops in general from this one.

And my thanks to you as well, Sheryl, for helping out. Thumbs up

I agree I agree I agree
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Jul 27, 2013 11:34 AM CST
Name: Suzanne Green
South Georgia
A Real Gardening Addict
Charter ATP Member Butterflies Bulbs Daylilies Echinacea Region: Georgia
Heucheras Roses Seller of Garden Stuff
Thanks Woofie and Flflwrgrl Smiling For me, the last two coops that I have participated in went bust. I participated in one that went sour on Cubits with Ella @ Ella's garden. I have participated in lots over the years too, it's just the last two went sour. A little time is the cure, I'm sure.
Gardening requires lots of water - most of it in the form of perspiration. ~Lou Erickson
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Jul 27, 2013 11:37 AM CST
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
Garden Sages Region: Ukraine Native Plants and Wildflowers Xeriscape Organic Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Garden Ideas: Master Level Butterflies Charter ATP Member Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Dog Lover
Thumbs up
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others. ~~ Sharon Brown
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Jul 27, 2013 12:16 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
The WITWIT Badge I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Dog Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters Container Gardener Seed Starter
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My last co-op over on Cubits was with Mamajack. Got some really nice stuff from her! I'm really surprised that you had a problem with Ella's. She's a good gal and I got a couple of very nice roses from her a few years back. Just goes to show, I guess, that everyone has glitches at some point. Angel
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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Jul 27, 2013 12:32 PM CST
Name: Suzanne Green
South Georgia
A Real Gardening Addict
Charter ATP Member Butterflies Bulbs Daylilies Echinacea Region: Georgia
Heucheras Roses Seller of Garden Stuff
Done many many with Mamajack, very reliable. Smiling
Gardening requires lots of water - most of it in the form of perspiration. ~Lou Erickson
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Jul 27, 2013 12:32 PM CST

To date I still have not received any plants. My last contact with Mike was by private email on July 16th. I know some of the plants I ordered are not available and let Mike know it was alright to make substitutions from his own personal stock.

Waiting in limbo.
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Jul 27, 2013 5:49 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Thanks everyone, I'm glad there's been some healing over this situation. I saw one co-op that went south (like, Antarctica south) on DG, and it splintered many friendships, got some people kicked off of the forums and just left a lot of hard feelings all around. I'm hoping to forestall some of that kind of fall out from this one, and I'm grateful to those who have been so generous with their support of my actions.

Dirtdigger, I have no idea what you and Mike have talked about in terms of replacement plants - if you would like, send me a tree-mail about the two of you had figured out and what you thought you were going to get. Unless you would prefer to just get a refund at this point; that is also an option.
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jul 28, 2013 1:37 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Michael Hicks
Clermont, Fl
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Plumerias Orchids Tropicals
Amaryllis Region: Florida Region: United States of America Roses
Sheryl
Thank you for all our help and i am sorry here ia my post i just did on my face book page

OK I am not sure what i have done to get on someones bad side that i think i am being stalked in cyber land but seems like i am...If you have placed an order with me in one of my sales I need you to please threw privet message tell me what Has not shipped all my spread sheets where hacked and all info is gone. i have my paypal records of payments and i have about 200 papers of shipments made gut that will not tell me what has been missed Seems like most all plants from sale are out or have died due to someone raving threw my yard making a nice compost pile. IF your plants are not available i ask you tell me what you like from MY PRIVET collection i have been and will post a longer list to substitute. If i can not find a suitable substitute as i sell my plants i am refunding money to date over 2500.00 of my money out of my own pocket and sales have gone to refunds,. All i can say at this time i am selling 99% of all my plants and due to moving i am doing so at way below what these plants retail value is. For those that have placed an order here with me in the last 3 days i have those rote down and if you like to remind me fine but i should have them and they will be prepared to packing tomorrow and packed Sunday shipping on Monday again
I am sorry that i have enimys I will take care of you in one faction or another thanks Mike


Shirley (dirtdigger) i have found the print out of your request and you will be mailed a confirmation shipping Monday
I am honest and all of your are so this is a test to that P Lease tree mail me or best yet my new email account [email protected] is the best I HAVE TO GET THIS COMPLETED no if and or buts for some reason maybe i did not hit save or send with a list of my plants but i will do again tomorrow. I thank all the people that can still stick with me and will make it good i have payment records threw pay pal but no other records they hacked good. I worked with my ISP provider and got a new modem with a different security setting it is for business use for this week to get this finished I should also have continuous access to internet with out interruption with new wires to the house ( the people that get this house are getting a great new system) I will try to update daily on progress of hw is being shipped first packages are due out Monday and i have scheduled pickup every day this next week I know its more work on you but i dont know how to get you plants with out your cooperation.

MattsMom i find a big problem with your statement as i never ordered common tiger lily's please send me pictures of the blooms i have 45 picks so far of blooms that where correct so i need to figure out why you have lily's i did not even purchase i have your packing list and you ordered 5 different kinds and i have others that have posted pics of them that bloomed 100% correct
thanks to all its now 340am and i have a big week ahead of me night

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Jul 28, 2013 5:02 AM CST
Name: Becky
WI
Echinacea Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Lilies
Container Gardener Sempervivums Hostas Clematis Peonies Hummingbirder
I had dug out the tiger lilies and put them on our garden waste trailer to go to the compost pile. I dug them before they had even bloomed, as the height, stems & buds clearly were tiger lilies. They have flowered out of the ground. You will have to excuse their condition as they have been partially buried in scrap for over a week.
Mike, I was not saying that you deliberately sent the wrong bulbs. What I was saying is that, obviously, your supplier had some bulbs mislabeled.
As requested, here are your photos-
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Jul 28, 2013 5:07 AM CST
Name: Becky
WI
Echinacea Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Daylilies Irises Lilies
Container Gardener Sempervivums Hostas Clematis Peonies Hummingbirder
The day I discovered that the bulbs were tiger lilies, I went to the spreadsheet & the only ones I ordered in the same quantity were the Golden Joy. I just went to the spreadsheet to see who else had ordered Golden Joy & the spreadsheet is blank.
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Jul 28, 2013 12:15 PM CST
Name: Sheryl
Hot, hot, hot, Feenix, AZ (Zone 9b)
Region: Southwest Gardening Charter ATP Member Keeps Horses Dog Lover Cat Lover Permaculture
Butterflies Birds Cottage Gardener Herbs I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises
Yeah, it got hacked.
In the end, only kindness matters.

Science is not the answer, it is the question.


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Jul 28, 2013 12:24 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
So sorry to hear that Mikes co-op spreadsheet got hacked. I didn't realize something here on ATP could be hacked; I thought the site was pretty secure but then again I don't understand the technology. I sure hope everything gets straightened out. Sad
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Jul 28, 2013 12:34 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
The WITWIT Badge I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Dog Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters Container Gardener Seed Starter
Lin, his spreadsheet was actually stored on Google, not here on ATP. Smiling
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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Jul 28, 2013 1:02 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Oh, okay ... *Blush* I didn't realize you could store something on google; thought it was just a search engine for looking up stuff. Green Grin!
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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Jul 28, 2013 1:07 PM CST
Name: Allison
NJ (Zone 6a)
Charter ATP Member Forum moderator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Region: New Jersey Seed Starter Garden Ideas: Level 1
a lot more than that... but privacy is a problem

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