I'm surprised you didn't find the other ones 3 days after you bought a new one. That would be my luck.

That always happens to me, a few times within minutes of the replacement arriving I'll get an idea of where to look, and there it is... taunting me. Sometimes without even looking I'll open a drawer and there it is... taunting me.

When I typed about it here, I already got an idea about a certain box in the basement where I might find one. I just haven't had a chance to go downstairs yet to check.

Let us know if you find it. It's almost a guarantee with me, maybe you have better luck.

breith95 said: I'm all for cursive.

I got my great-granddaughter a "cursive" workbook, as her school is not teaching it. She really smiled when she opened the present.

Nancy, that one I posted has a metal frame (and metal bottle opener). My FIL gave his a workout (several times a day for 4+ years) without wearing it out. So, maybe not the heirloom life of the Gihoolie, but not a bad alternative.

Jill, I missed that the frame is metal, I just looked at material listed and it only said "plastic". You would think they'd be wise enough to list plastic/metal, that would definitely have swayed me. But it looks very handy, if I ever need a 2nd one, I might get one.

Nancy, I think I ordered 1 to see it and then ordered a 12 pack and gifted them all around. Jim's dad had 3 in their 1 BR cottage -- 1 by his chair, 1 on his bedside table and 1 in the kitchen.

I've heard that cursive is making a comeback. For me, it's a faster way of taking notes than printing. Keyboarding may be faster yet for most people, but I'm not sure the Chromebooks they use in school are great for drawing the diagrams and pictures that might go along with in-class notes. At any rate, "they" may have figured out that cursive isn't useless and obsolete after all.

Remeber the books about Babar the elephant that were published in a cursive typeface?

The National Archives has billions of handwritten documents. With cursive skills declining, how will we read them?

And part of the text from NPR.org when a professor realized just how many students couldn't read cursive:

Well, I was teaching a class, a seminar for undergraduates at Harvard, Civil War history. And a student was giving a report to the class about a book he'd read. And he said one of the great attributes of the book is it had many wonderful illustrations, including illustrations of documents from the Civil War era. But, of course, he couldn't read those because he didn't read cursive. And I said, what? What? Wait a minute. What do you mean you can't read cursive?

And then it turned out that two-thirds of the students in the class couldn't read cursive. And I was just stunned. I had no idea. So I set out to explore some of the implications of that for historians and for history, because I am a historian, but also more broadly, just what it means when you can't read your birthday card from your grandmother and you have to have your mother translate it for you.

They should never have cut cursive from being taught in schools, I don't think they actually considered everything that it would effect. It might lead to a new specialized job potential opening up... people who can read cursive to actually decode hand-written documents. OCR has never been good enough to read cursive without a lot of training on each handwriting sample because they vary so much for every individual in the world. And no one but someone who can read cursive will be able to do the training. So I really don't see relying on OCR in the future either.

My grandson can't read cursive; his class was the one where it was dropped from the curriculum. His older sister can read it and I didn't realize until recently that she was translating his birthday cards from us. So that professor was absolutely correct! It does take much longer to take notes when one has to print and I suspect that's one reason it takes him longer to do homework and study than it did his sister. I fear this will have a negative effect when he goes to college.

Donna ~ I picked up a cursive workbook from Amazon, for the interested (great-) granddaughter. I probaby should have gotten them all the workbooks. It's nice to see them on Amazon.

Thanks Evelyn, great idea. Think I'll pick one up for my grandson. Might make his life easier in the long run.

Bought a Gilhoolie for myself and one for my daughter for her birthday. We both have difficulty opening jars, even with a rubber jar "opener". They have shipped and I'm hoping they work as well as advertised! Anyone have a great can-opener they just love and would recommend?

I had a manual can opener for about 25 yrs and there was nothing wrong with it at all. Gave it to my daughter when she went out on her own about 10 yrs ago and have bought at least a dozen replacements but they are all garbage. Even the one I spent $8 on about 6 months ago. It is about to be thrown out because it has lost its ability to puncture the can. I'm so sick of buying the same thing(s) over and over.

I refuse to donate counter space to an electric one. I did have a cute little battery one that lasted about 3 yrs until the inside corroded. It was great, just put it on a can and push a button. It would "dance" around the can and made a side cut instead of cutting around the top. I know I didn't get it wet but it's a tough life for moisture-averse items in my kitchen because there is no heat or cooling in there. I haven't replaced it because I expect a new one would cost 3x as much and only last a few months. All the new stuff is garbage.

I have a manual can opener. It's a Pampered Chef and cuts around the side of the top. The wheel is beginning to wear and it doesn't always cut through all of the metal. I've had it for years and would love to find another one that works as well. I agree with you, Tiffany, so much of what is produced today is, as you put it, garbage!

Nancy they sell that opener on Temu for cheap-$3 and change. My friend sent me one but I haven't had a chance to use it yet. I had trouble opening those square plastic jars of peanuts. Usually if I pop the ring seal I can get the lid off but for some reason this lid was stuck to the interior foil seal. I had to actually saw the top of the jar off with a serrated knife. I don't think this opener wouldv'e worked in this application because the lid was so large.

I read scary stuff about Temu.
https://time.com/6243738/temu-...
I have a Kitchenaid manual can opener, its been good a long time. Since losing my old true Swingaway.

I wouldn't risk ordering from Temu either. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. But the one they have on Temu is the cheaper crippled one that you can also find on Amazon, it doesn't have the movable claw-type parts that actually grip the jar lids, nor the end part to pop open other items.

I recently got this battery-operated can-opener for my husband from Amazon. He said the manual ones hurt the arthritis in his hands too much and wanted an electric one, this was the compromise since there is no space on our counters to keep one. And he loves, it actually works quite well and doesn't leave sharp edges on the can or lid. The only thing I wish it did was to automatically stop when it circled full around.


Edit just to add that we've had this one for 3 years now and it's still like new, I keep it in a drawer.

That's similar to the one I had but looks a little bigger.

One of the best tools I own is a j shaped pop top can opener, not this brand but looks just like it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01H7FRMU6/

I bought two thinking that one would eventually break - has not. Found it so handy I bought one for each daughter and younger one agrees it is her best tool as well.

Nancy, glad to hear you've had your button press opener for three years and it's still good. Some of the reviews of those were terrible! I looked at one and wasn't sure I wanted to try it. Maybe I will after all.

I have trouble opening pop top cans for a few days after I've failed my nails way down. So I just use a fork prong or my nail file to pry it up enough to grab.

Donna, that can opener was $30 when I bought it. I actually don't think I've had to replace the batteries in it yet either now that I think about it. Zero rust or corrosion on the cutter parts, it might have to do with how cleanly it cuts the lid off the can, food particles or liquids from soups never seem to get on the cutter the way it work. Old electric can openers I remember always having to try and scrub the cutters parts with a toothbrush, and they always seemed to corrode and get rusty.