Sempervivum and Jovibarba forum: Why are my new succulent's leaves curling under?

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rinkmom
Mar 26, 2013 11:13 AM CST
Hi! I am a succulent newbie, but LOVE them! I am an outdoor flower gardener with a lot of experience in that area, however I get impatient in the Central Indiana winter and started to fill my "hands in the dirt" need with these awesome plants. I ordered a number of plugs a month or two ago and they were wonderful! Now, I think I might have overwatered them, as the ones I planted and were put in a spot of plant neglecting are doing fine. These, I found were too wet and the bottom leaves were curled under very tightly in a little ball. They also lost their color (all light green now). I have transplanted them in dryer soil, but am afraid I will lose these babies Sad Is there anything I can do to save them at this point? I'm sorry I don't have a pic rt. now, but it would look just like the first one Jookieblue provided. I DO have grow lights for seed prop. The succulents are currently by a sliding glass door that gets a lot of morning sun (when it isn't snowing or cloudy-majority of the time right now). Any help appreciated!
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 26, 2013 11:29 AM CST

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Welcome! Hi rinkmom, glad you found your way to ATP. Hurray!
Would love to see photos when you get a chance.
You did the right thing by replanting the wet ones. Neglect and cold temps are great for them this time of year, especially with the type of weather you are experiencing.
The curled leaves are from to much water and not enough light. You shouldn't lose them, they should grow out of this condition as soon as you can get them planted outdoors. You should see some improvement with just putting them in dryer soil.
Give them as much light as you can, and a cold window if you have one. The combination of more light and a colder environment should help them.
Name: Jackie
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Jookieblue
Mar 26, 2013 3:54 PM CST
Oh no!! Listen to Lynn she knows what she's talking about for sure. My Hen was just to far gone by the time I discovered this lovely forum. We tried to save her but didn't work out so well. Mine went from very dry conditions to getting root rot after I transplanted her into a new pot with new dirt. Apparently that dirt just held to much moisture. Make sure you have a well draining pot with lots of holes so the water will run out when you do end up watering it again. If and when I do water mine I just lightly mist the top of the soil and they are all looking great! Give Lynn some pic's when you can and that will help out a lot and Welcome! Hurray!
Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 26, 2013 3:57 PM CST

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I agree with what Jackie said about misting the plants. Thumbs up
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gg5
Mar 28, 2013 12:16 AM CST
Welcome! Rinkmom! You're in good hands! You are saying succulents, but are these cold hardy, or tender? Do you know? Some examples of tender would be Jade tree, or echeveria, graptopelatum. Sempervivum, and many sedums are cold hardy, and need to be near a cold window like Lynn suggested, but if your plants are not cold hardy, they need warmth, and dry!! Cheers and do update us, we're curious how things work out! I tip my hat to you.
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Mar 28, 2013 1:00 AM CST

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Hi RinkMom Welcome!
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twitcher
Mar 28, 2013 11:23 AM CST
Semps need to be outdoors. If indoors for the winter, stick them in a cold garage and don't water them, unless you have a cold window with very bright light. These are very tough plants that thrive on neglect and perish when you fuss with them too much. Welcome!
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Patty
Mar 28, 2013 5:33 PM CST
This is off topic but still related to care. Does it set the plants back to move them during certain periods? I put mine in a temp location in the ground because I didn't want to keep them in pots, so is there a "safe" or "unsafe" period for moving them to other beds? For example, should I NOT move them in spring after they start forming chicks, or is that not an issue?
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Name: Jackie
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Jookieblue
Mar 28, 2013 5:46 PM CST
OHHHHH good question Patty! I would like to know the answer to that one as well.
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CDsSister
Mar 28, 2013 6:02 PM CST
Patty said:This is off topic but still related to care. Does it set the plants back to move them during certain periods? I put mine in a temp location in the ground because I didn't want to keep them in pots, so is there a "safe" or "unsafe" period for moving them to other beds? For example, should I NOT move them in spring after they start forming chicks, or is that not an issue?


Wonderful question and one I have too.

Do I transplant now or wait????? If I do will it set back the chick growing season??

I'm all ears! I'm all ears!



Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
Mar 28, 2013 6:30 PM CST

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I have transplanted mine at all times of the year. I think drought season is the most difficult time, next is fall.
I have had wonderful results with late winter, spring and early summer transplanting. With or without chicks attached. They are actively growing in the spring so recover very quickly.
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jojoe
Jun 7, 2013 7:19 AM CST
I just found this forum and of course have a question.
Rinkmom, when you say leaves curling under do you mean some of the bottom leaves are pointing down & the ones in the middle up? I have a semp or two that look like this,i thought it was just the way that particular plant grew.If it ever stops raining (been 3 days) I will take a picture of what i mean to see if it's the same thing Rinkmom is talking about in case i have them in to much shade.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
Jun 7, 2013 2:01 PM CST

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Are you out there rinkmom? How are your plants doing?

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