Plumeria forum: Just thinking....

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Name: Online public--Cyra
Central CA (Zone 9a)
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cyra
Apr 7, 2013 12:14 PM CST
Okay, my space is limited to (4) large plants, (though I can grow many 1-3 year plumies, long as I give them away, after they become too large for my available space).
So, being the impractical soul that I am, I found some old seed from Florida Colors, and Plumeria2U, (who often buy from FC) and planted all 36 of them, thinking that maybe one or two of the seeds would sprout....I really hate to waste anything, but these seeds weren't fresh, so I didn't expect many sprouts....
The ones labelled "Pink Pansy" were the first to sprout. I now also see a "Neon Lights" and a "J23"....which says a lot about FC seeds' viability.
Now I don't know much about plumeria, but I do know that when growing plumeria from seeds, one shouldn't expect clones of seed plants' parents, and that the offspring won't necessarily resemble their parents, though they might resemble one, at least. But I can't help but think that most plumeria nursuries carry nice specimens, so the result of their seeds might be exceptional, too, being the end-result of crosses between 2 nice specimens...and I'm hopeful Ill end up with a nice plant from at least one seedling? What are the odds on this? Do any of the members here grow plumeria seedlings? If so, what have been your results? And, -thanks.
Name: Peg
Va.Beach (Zone 8a)
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pcput
Apr 7, 2013 5:50 PM CST
Cyra, I know one one person who grew 50 seedlings from one of his own seed pods. Of the 50 most where uneventful white. Three were worth keeping and if I remember right 6 had not bloomed in 8 years. This is the problem with growing seedlings. They can take up a lot of landscape until you find that beauty. On the other hand there is a thrill to having one that no one else has and knowing you grew it. I think everyone should have a few as it is such fun. Peg
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 8, 2013 7:12 AM CST

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You are both right! A new seedling is a thrill, but it takes a lot of dedication and time.
And not to discount all whites..... check out this: Plumeria (Plumeria rubra 'Ammaron's Curly White')
Name: Online public--Cyra
Central CA (Zone 9a)
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cyra
Apr 8, 2013 10:06 AM CST
(Smile) I'd never discount whites...after all, I'm addicted to fragrances from mainly white blossoms...tuberose ,gardenia, jasmine, lily-of-the-valley, jonquils, citrus-blossoms, etc. Even my one and only llilac is whitte. And isn't a white (S. obtusa? ) considered the most fragrant of plumeria?
The worse my eyesight becomes, the more I appreciate the fragrances of flowers, I'm finding.
Thanks for the link which so beautifully demonstrates your point, DL1. The Anamarron Curly White is on my list of "Someday" plumeria, ones to try should one of the (4) compact-growin) plumeria I have room for, fail, or become too large.
If I understand another post on grafting correctly, my rooted seedlings, even if unimpressive in appearance, may still serve as host-stock for grafting, providing that they're healthy, so they will still have a purpose, besides occupying space...
Think I have a good idea what my friend's and co-workers will be receiving for holiday gifts in a few years...grafting experiments!
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 8, 2013 10:22 AM CST

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exactly! Grafting stock for the non-performers or too plain to keep plumeria!
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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GigiPlumeria
Apr 9, 2013 9:09 PM CST
I have the same problem. I got germinating-seed-happy and I don't know what to do with all 60+ seedlings when they grow big. (Yikes!). I'm keeping them in small pots for as long as I can. I don't mind if they get stunted and when they are 2 years old, then I will transfer them to bigger pots or ship them to my Mom who has a few acre farms and boy does she love plants! Smiling

But they all look so cute for now:), some are starting to branch out. So I'm keeping them for now until my DH puts them up for adoption. Big Grin
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Name: Online public--Cyra
Central CA (Zone 9a)
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cyra
Apr 10, 2013 12:43 AM CST
Gigi, in that case, all I can say is....Thank goodness for Moms; 'cause they always keep our "presents"! Of course, I'm thinking of the usual lopsided soapdishes or hand-print plaques, but I imagine plumeria fit in there, too....! And you have a hubby to help donate extras, too.
60+ seedliings? Wow! Now I don't feel quite so over-the-top with my measly 36 planted, from which I've already been removing "duds". So far I've 17 seedlings showing....
Their pots await, as do several window-sills. I want to wait and see what they produce in the way of flowers, before I decide which of mine will make good parents in grafting experiments....
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 10, 2013 3:20 AM CST

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A good rule is that when the leaves and petioles are a plain green, the flower is not likely to have much in the way of color besides white. So some people weed those out early on, leaving the ones that have red in the leaves and petioles, in the hope of getting brightly colored blooms.
Name: Online public--Cyra
Central CA (Zone 9a)
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cyra
Apr 10, 2013 9:52 AM CST
Hetty, that's brilliant -and I'm filing it away. Your expertise in this field is very much appreciated! I may not discard plumeria whose leaves or growth lack in coloration, but I'll take notes on this, and add this info to each plumerias' I tip my hat to you. I tip my hat to you. index file card. Thank you!
Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Apr 10, 2013 11:05 AM CST

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You're welcome Smiling
Name: Gigi
Florida (Zone 9a)
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GigiPlumeria
Apr 10, 2013 6:06 PM CST
Cyra, you are right, that's why God made moms and DH too:).

Hetty, thanks...I checked out my seedlings and some have pink colors but I think most are just plain green Sad but I like the idea of using them as grafting experiments. I failed miserably on that experiment. I can root cuttings better than to get my grafts to take hold.
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