Hummbird said: i just took a photo of the little new leaves that im talking about that are turning brown, you may need to blow up the photo to see it good i did the best i could

false start ....should die off - and its normal ....

I have another question please, this is the only bigger DR i have and it is now wrinkleing and the tallest part is now bending over is this normal because of Dormant, i have not put a drop of water on any of they yet like you told me to do. Do i need to do anything with the tall one bending over or what. Maybe you can tell more by looking at the photo here. Thanks again

I had to remove bigger leaves before so my adeniums can conserve energy when repotting or when they start to bend or get top heavy. They get top heavy for me when I give them nitrogen rich fertilizer.

I now only do that during early spring when they are waking up. The rest of the year they will be on slow releases granules with high phosphorus or balanced fertilizer with supplement high phosphorus liquid fertilizer.

the bent-over appearance is caused by the plant using-up its stored resources from its caudex + main stem .....as a result, the main stem is loosing rigidity (from loss of resources).....and can not support the heavy top

the stem wrinkling is usually normal ....but in this case may be something else - stem rot .....

the leaf wrinkling is also normal and occurs during dormancy after watering has ceased

the plant is planted too deep (too low) in the pot ....judging from the height of the lowest 2 stems nearest the white rock...they should be an inch or so higher (more "empty" space between 2 stems and white rock) ...... from seed, adenium grow into a bottle-neck shape - the first leaves emerge just above the bottle-neck ..... the bottle-neck being the caudex growing above the potting media and should be visible ...

pour off as much as the white rock as possible ...then gently pull the plant from the potting mix, knock off or wash off all potting mix -
then - examine the roots carefully (be gentile not to break roots) ....look for any root rot ....rot can be black to brown - wet to slimy ...and may or may not have a rotten smell -

if all looks good - and no rot is found .....
repot plant, but this time, lift it higher in the pot than where it was -

watering might correct the stem wrinkling ....(return to "smooth and plump") ....but watering now might also cause the death of the plant .....

another course of action - prop-up the leaning top with a forked stick ... or a hand size rock ....or a short length of bamboo / cane ....and wait out until spring - when watering can resume

consider cutting off the main stem ....if that is stem rot ...and if left as is ....rot will travel throughout the plant - eventually killing it

So you think maybe a repot is the best or to try watering it ? If i repot it do i water it when i put it back in the pot ?

Ang also should i go ahead and cut the main stem off even if i repot the plant ?

The leaves on the top look good as do the bottom ones, Do you think maybe i should go ahead and replant it and lift it up a little bit and water it then too or what ? I read somewhere its a good idea to leave the plant out of the pot for a few days before repotting is that good or not ? I hate to loose this plant it is the first plant i bought and it got me into Desert Roses.

Hummbird said: So you think maybe a repot is the best or to try watering it ? If i repot it do i water it when i put it back in the pot ?

think its best for the plant to repot - without watering

Hummbird said: Ang also should i go ahead and cut the main stem off even if i repot the plant ?

repot - but watch the main stem....if the wrinkled appearance drops further down - I would cut it off at or just below the wrinkled surface - if you see *anything* that is not white - like tan, light brown colors take another slice -
keep cuts from getting wet until they callas (harden) over

Hummbird said: The leaves on the top look good as do the bottom ones, Do you think maybe i should go ahead and replant it and lift it up a little bit and water it then too or what ? I read somewhere its a good idea to leave the plant out of the pot for a few days before repotting is that good or not ? I hate to loose this plant it is the first plant i bought and it got me into Desert Roses.

leaves on a rotted plant can "look" perfectly normal & healthy - while the caudex or stems have rot ...that will eventually kill the plant

dont water - not even a little sip

I just removed the white rocks and about a half inch of soil and i found new roots and they are white and look good. if i repot it higher they will be out of the soil is that ok ?

I just lifted the plant out and from what i see the roots look good they are all white, no black. is it ok to plant back in the same soil and should i cut the main stem off before potting.

its fine for now ......wait and see ....

adenium are one of few plants where growers can lift the plant much higher in the pot to expose more of roots ....creating bonsai .....and in just a fraction of the time...

to get a "bonsai" looking plant .....lift the entire plant 1" every 2-3 years

is the area where the arrows are pointing - mushy or soft ??

OK I will give her a try, thanks so very much

cutting the main stem off is up to you ...if the wrinkling drops any lower I would cut it off

if the area that the arrows are pointing are firm - not mushy - repot the plant - raise it slightly

Not mushy or soft

time to repot

no water

place in a south facing window

Im thinking if its better for the plant to cut it i will because it will stand up better i think,

i have grow lights is ok to put it under them or not ?