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May 17, 2013 10:25 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
Marilyn, It's been 6 years since I've been to the US. I can't really say that I miss it. I don't have bad feelings about it but my life is here now and there isn't much calling me north. There are some things that aren't available here but they are fewer and fewer. I used to have a long list of things to bring back when i still returned to the US every year. The list got shorter and shorter and now I occasionally have friends bring me things that I order online but not often. My list these days includes bras, finding anything larger than a 34B is nigh on impossible, and occasionally electronic stuff that is cheaper in the US. I got an Apple TV the other day that a friend brought down. The other thing is that I don't see many of the commercials and I'm not in the stores up there so I don't develop a longing for stuff that I might if I saw it all the time. I do have Canadian TV that carries the US networks and I see some commercials but I think just not being in the stores all the time looking at stuff keeps me from thinking I have to have it. I do wish there were a Linen's and Things or similar sheet and towel store with low prices and good quality. I have my clothes made for me, cheaper than buying them at a store, and I occasionally wish for a larger selection of fabric. That illustrates some of the changes that make living here easy and comfortable for me. Labor is cheaper than imports so once you rearrange how you acquire things and realize that almost anything can be built for you or repaired inexpensively, you just do things differently and there isn't a lack. Other than stuff, I really enjoy the cultural life and the social life here. It's a city with lots of music and art and interesting places to go. I'm not a stickler for efficiency so the laid back attitude about time doesn't bother me, in fact I joke that I finally found a place with my kind of 'on time'. I work on my spanish all the time but I'm at a level where I can handle most situations and I am not limited by a lack of language anymore. Medical care is world class and much more patient centered than in the US, the care is incredible and the time spent with you by your doctor is unheard of in the north. Living here is not for everyone of course, but for me it is a joy.
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.
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May 17, 2013 11:08 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
I am happy for you, Jonna. Some folks find out much too late what is actually important and what can be discarded. Thumbs up
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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May 18, 2013 6:24 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Sometimes we don't learn until we reach our 60's that we don't need or want all that stuff. One can live the same way here if you don't go 'looking' in stores. If I see it, I want it and I've been in the process of ridding myself of so much that I'm not interested in seeing things I feel I have to have...so I just don't bother. I don't go into book stores, or fabric stores or clothing stores. From the limited buying that I do, I wonder how some stores stay in business...lol..
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 18, 2013 7:12 AM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
Jonna, you could be a spokesman for retiring to Mexico! Sounds like a great place, especially for plant collectors. Are there poisonous snakes (or any snakes) in the city areas?
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May 18, 2013 7:47 AM CST
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: United States of America Region: New Jersey Houseplants Container Gardener
Farmer Keeps Horses Dog Lover Birds The WITWIT Badge Plays in the sandbox
Jonna, I am a stranger to you, but by the sound of contentment in your post I would say you are one lucky lady.
My trips to Mexico have been few, but I loved it more as I got older than I did as a young woman. Maybe it is because my Grandmother was Spanish and although there is a good bit of difference, somehow I think it is in the blood. I was raised with Music and love and that sounds like you have it daily down there. Bless you, my dear lady, I am 84 and will never see my beloved Mexico again, but my memories are with me always. Thank you for sharing your feelings.
Come Visit us and chat awhile at
https://www.facebook.com/JBsPl...


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May 18, 2013 9:23 AM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Well, according to the nightly news a couple of days ago, we may all want to think about moving to Ecuador......
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 18, 2013 12:07 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
I went with a friend to San Miguel de Allende a few years ago. I came home ready to move! There was something to do every night, if you wanted to. Couldn't get my DH on board, tho.
We watched the segment on Ecuador too. He won't go there either! (I think it has something to do with a 7 yr old grandson here about 3 miles away). The taxes down there are unbelievably low. Austin taxes are killing us.
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May 18, 2013 12:16 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
I think I'd really have to 'ease' into the Ecuador thing over a period of time. I would be cautious though, I'm afraid. We know people who in the past have had property issues in Mexico and Belize. We're getting ready to sell and move and all I want right now is Water...more rain....so, most likely we will go North from SoCal....if I were going to be in Texas...Austin would be my choice....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 18, 2013 12:58 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Mérida, Yucatán, México (Zone 13a)
The WITWIT Badge Region: Mexico Garden Procrastinator I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Ponds Tropicals
Enjoys or suffers hot summers Plumerias Plays in the sandbox Dog Lover Cat Lover
Thank you all for being so kind. I do feel I am very lucky to have found a place that suits me. Rather like a saying my friend in AA used to use, 'take what works and leave the rest', there are things that aren't perfect here, things that I would change if I could. It's a matter of balance and the good outweighs the bad by a lot for me, for others it doesn't. I grew up in SoCal and spent a lot of time in my youth in Mexico, the culture was not a surprise or a big shock for me. That helps, and realizing that you can't change how things are done you can only change how you react to them. The things that were the hardest for me to accept in Mexican culture are the attitudes towards animals and women. I see such enormous change in those attitudes in just the 10 years I've lived here and in some areas this culture is outstripping the US in changes. So, I'm encouraged and feel that my solution of just ignoring and refusing to go along with the things that I found offensive has worked for me. I did wonder many years ago if I would be able to live with some of it, I think that I located an area in Mexico that is very different than the rest of the country and that has values closer to my own in those areas.

I hesitate to write much about living here because I am aware of the animosity that seems to be common in many areas of the US. I understand the reasons but disagree with the result. I don't want to argue politics or have to defend my adopted country so I try and stay away from it. I think most people know that there are good and bad people, good and bad cultural norms in all countries in the world. I don't like encountering anti-American feelings here either, there are the same biases and uniformed beliefs about the US here as there are about Mexico up there. I prefer to believe that most people want to do the right thing, want to treat their neighbor well and that if I expect that from them I am usually rewarded.
A day without sunshine is like, you know, night.
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May 18, 2013 1:15 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Well, you don't have to leave the U.S. to have those who don't like you or want you there....if you're from California and move to Texas or Oregon or Washington..or it you're old enough to have experienced prejudice in the 60's because you had long hair (my husband still does)...or you're gay or you don't belong to their church or you're a Democrat or you're a Republican...whatever, it's everywhere. You just have to find what works for you and sift through all the rest.....wherever you are....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 18, 2013 1:42 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
The WITWIT Badge I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Dog Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters Container Gardener Seed Starter
Oh my yes, Sherry is so right!
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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May 18, 2013 1:43 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
And don't you think with age comes wisdom?
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May 18, 2013 2:04 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
yes...that's why my only friends are all of the people at ATP and cubits....lol..

Funny you should say that. I was sent the joke this a.m. about 'With Age Comes Wisdom'...the only thing in a long while to make me laugh out loud....
http://www.dvo.com/newsletter/...
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 18, 2013 4:50 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
Rescue dogs: Angels with paws needi
Dragonflies Dog Lover Bookworm I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Photography Bee Lover
Plays in the sandbox Butterflies Region: Texas Garden Sages I sent a postcard to Randy! Charter ATP Member
Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
It’s okay to not know all the answers.
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May 18, 2013 5:05 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
That was really funny, and I'll share it with my 70 year old husband!
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May 18, 2013 5:13 PM CST
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Name: Margaret
Near Kamloops, BC, Canada (Zone 3a)
Region: Canadian Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Tip Photographer Garden Ideas: Master Level I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Morning Glories Critters Allowed Birds Houseplants Butterflies Garden Photography
Bubbles said:And don't you think with age comes wisdom?

I agree Green Grin!

Love the frog story, I'd seen it before but still giggled. Hilarious!
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May 18, 2013 5:20 PM CST
Name: Sandi
Austin, Tx (Zone 8b)
Texas Gardening
Forum moderator Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Identifier Master Gardener: Texas
Region: Texas Tropicals Plumerias Ferns Greenhouse Garden Art
Well, I figure we're all about to wind up in the sandbox anyway, so I'm posting this link to an Austin blogger (who'll be speaking to our garden club in September). The reason I'm posting it is the garden she photographed, is Lucinda Hutson's garden. Lucinda is coming to speak to our club next Thursday evening. She has got to be one of the nicest and most hospitable people I have run across. The Austin newspaper ran an article about her new book coming out this week and mentioned that she would be speaking and signing her book at our mtg. She travels extensively through Mexico and always brings back something for her cool and crazy garden!

http://www.penick.net/digging/...
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May 18, 2013 5:29 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
Love Pam's blog and follow it daily....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....
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May 18, 2013 5:54 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
Charter ATP Member Garden Procrastinator Greenhouse Dragonflies Plays in the sandbox I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
The WITWIT Badge I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Dog Lover Enjoys or suffers cold winters Container Gardener Seed Starter
C'mon, now. How far off topic can you get, when you start off talking about Marmots? Rolling on the floor laughing
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
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May 18, 2013 6:00 PM CST
Name: Sherry
Northern California
Sunset Zone 17
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Region: Pacific Northwest Seed Starter Region: California Plant Identifier
lol.....
I could be wrong...
and.....
"maybe I should have kept my mouth shut....."
The Urge for Seeds is Strong in This One.....

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