I NEED HELP!!
I am going absolutely mad trying to figure this out.
I am finding conflicting information online about identifying Wisteria by twining direction. I read mostly that Japanese is clockwise and Chinese is counter-clock, but with no clarity on how / which way to look at it to determine the direction. Then i found an image, which showed both as right (clockwise) and left (counter), but in this image, it shows Chinese growing to the right, clockwise, and Japanese growing the left, counter clock. This is the exact opposite of what ive been reading.

Then i found an article that explains to look at it from the plants perspective to determine the direction, i thought that helped, untill i realized, ITS GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, it has too!!
This article also said everything north of the equator grows sinensis (which they defined as to the left) and then said "so we should assume everything in north America grows to the right." ANOTHER INCONSISTENTCY.

Someone please please help me im going to need to be hospitalized if i cant clear this up very soon. Im desperate, and would so much appreciate the help.

Attaching a picture of one of my wisteria

So sorry for your distress. In the photo I see mostly a birdhouse (or similar structure). If you post better, detailed photos of your wisteria, perhaps we can identify it that way , if that is your goal —leaves, stems, flowers.

As for which way to view the twine direction, this article might help. This guy is generally reliable. But after a few minutes of searching the subject, I can see why you're confused. Lotta garbage on the interstate. Most sites are cut&paste echo chambers, so all it takes is one post containing misinformation to spawn 1000s more.

https://www.gardenmyths.com/tw...

NMoasis said:

As for which way to view the twine direction, this article might help.

@NMoasis I think you forgot the article link?

Thank you, @Calif_Sue Sue. Added it to my post. Wonder—should this question be separated from the original post? Took a lot of scrolling to get to the new question, which is only relevant to the first in that it's about a wisteria.

I split it off to it's own thread.

NMoasis said: So sorry for your distress. In the photo I see mostly a birdhouse (or similar structure). If you post better, detailed photos of your wisteria, perhaps we can identify it that way , if that is your goal —leaves, stems, flowers.

Thanks for the article i will check it out now. My photo shows the only twining pt of reference that my wisteria has right now, which is a vine wrapping around the post that holds the broken birdhouse thing, may have to zoom in to notice it. Sorry for the vague image

I should have asked more clearly: what is your goal? If it is identify the species of wisteria, we'll need better photos.

The wisteria in the birdhouse photo is twining clockwise. It is also going to destroy the birdhouse if not removed. To do so you will have to unwind it in a counter-clockwise direction.

It is twining clockwise from above, counter-clockwise from the ground up, i think that makes it Japanese.

I think i read mostly that "Japanese Wisteria grows clockwise."

Then i found an image comparing the two, specifying "Japanese Wisteria (counter-clockwise from the ground)"

Which means the other sources must be viewing the direction from above, and just not clarifying that.

Your clock turns the opposite direction from mine.

porkpal said: Your clock turns the opposite direction from mine.

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