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Oct 19, 2023 5:33 PM CST
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Well, Aegagropila is an algae (Phylum Chlorophyta, not Phyllum Tracheophyta)... So, at what point does an algae become un-addable to the plant database? Are Aegagropila even "supposed" to be in the database? Are only multicellular/fillamentous ones ok? Are single-cellular algae not ok? I have a few species of algae so I was wondering.

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Oct 19, 2023 11:16 PM CST
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Since that genus (and phyllum) are in the plant kingdom, I think we're okay there... @Dave will need to confirm if there is some exception to phylla within the plant kingdom, though.
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Oct 20, 2023 5:14 AM CST
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I always considered that anything in the plant kingdom belongs in our database, should anyone desire to add it. But I also prefer to defer to the opinions of our admins and moderators.
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Oct 20, 2023 6:46 AM CST
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Thanks Dave. I am of the same opinion, so I guess it depends on what the other admins think.
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Oct 20, 2023 7:51 AM CST
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Oct 20, 2023 9:20 AM CST
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Ah, I see, thanks!
Currently the only algae I have identified are Scenedesmus, as well as haematococcus pluvialis.
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Oct 20, 2023 3:23 PM CST
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Adding green algae to the database opens an enormous, and rather absurd, can of worms.

There are tens of thousands of species of green algae, most of which can't be distinguished from each other by anyone but a few specialists in the field. Or, maybe not, no one is really sure how many species there might be or how to coherently categorize them. No one is sure green algae are even a "thing". They may be a collection of groups of unrelated organisms that just resemble each other after 3+ billion years of convergent evolution. We may have just lumped them together because it was convenient and we don't even know what we don't know about them.

Once you add green algae, there's no justification for not adding lichens. Again, that's 10's of thousands new entries for an even messier and more poorly understood taxon that can even less accurately be called "plants".

Once you've added lichens, there's no reason, from a taxonomic standpoint, to keep out fungi which can't even vaguely be considered plants and are also poorly understood, although better than algae and lichens.

Many plant biologists don't currently consider green algae to be members of the Kingdom Plantae, although there's an ongoing (seemingly never ending) debate about that.

Lastly, what would we gain by opening this giant and very confusing can of worms? Most likely, vast numbers of additional blank entries and a few pictures of (probably misidentified) pond scum. With no real upside that I can see? Shrug!
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Oct 20, 2023 8:03 PM CST
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So, should Aegagropila be removed?
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Oct 20, 2023 10:12 PM CST
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Zuzu said she agrees with Kent. (her keyboard is messed up)
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Oct 21, 2023 7:08 AM CST
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Hmmm, so should Aegagropila be removed?
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