Yes, Sue, that's a Tiger Eye sumac, It likes to spread a little, but not too hard to control. I love the texture of the leaves.

Clint, Rooguchi doesn't climb well, I just weave the runners through the trellis a few times and then it seems to hold, but I need a taller trellis for sure.

Thanks for the info.

clintbrown said:I love Avant Garde. I got it from Bluestone and it is huge now.

I was told that Rooguchi doesn't climb good. Is that true? The place I was looking says you have to tie it to the trellis. I hope others can clarify.

Definitely a leaner not a climber. Has to be one of my favourites though!

Rooguchi took the first year or so to establish for me. With clematis, it is the first year, the sleep, the second year they creep and the third year they leap. I have found this to be true with growing clematis.

Clint - My Rooguchi is growing at the bottom of a privacy fence with metal fencing attached to the cross pieces of my privacy fence. I weave Rooguchi through the squares of the attached metal fencing. You can see the fencing on the right of my photo when enlarged.

Thanks for that catchy way to remember, Carolyn22!!

Is there one that looks like it that climbs without assistance?

I'm not sure Clint, but I don't think I spend more then 30 seconds pushing the vines through the trellis after it reaches about 3 ft in hight. It's not labor intensive.

I so agree with Tom. Mine pretty much grow up through on their own. There is the stray vine that needs to be tied up and pushed through, but that is true with most clematis.

Thanks. I'm getting it for sure. If you want another one that blooms a long time, 'Rosemoor' blooms all spring and summer for me

I would say it's my best clematis because it seems to be in constant bloom, for that reason alone I plan to get another one!