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Jul 5, 2013 9:24 AM CST
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But I can't name this plant that popped up in a friend's garden.
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Jul 5, 2013 9:35 AM CST
Name: Paul
Utah (Zone 5b)
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Looks like an all green reversion of the Chameleon Plant.....Houttuynia cordata.
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Jul 5, 2013 10:18 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
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It does look like H. cordata: Chameleon Plant (Houttuynia cordata)
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Jul 5, 2013 11:03 AM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
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Does it have a strong sharp scent? That is another indicator of houttuynia.
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Jul 12, 2013 12:00 PM CST
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Rampant spreader?
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Jul 12, 2013 3:03 PM CST
Name: Tiffany purpleinopp
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Notoriously difficult weed.
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Jul 12, 2013 6:29 PM CST
Name: Deb
Planet Earth (Zone 8b)
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Or not. I don't consider it a weed and use it as a ground cover under trees and shrubs. I think it is more aggressive in different parts of the country, and it also depends on how much free space you have.
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Jul 24, 2013 10:47 AM CST
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Yeah, I'm familiar with the one that's variegated, with red.
Wasn't sure about the simple little wjite one.....
Guess if it tries to take over next year I'll pull it....
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Nov 16, 2013 8:40 AM CST
Name: Arlene
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There is no such thing as "pulling it". So sorry, crittergarden. I've dug it, sprayed it, covered it with black plastic for 9 months. It's horribly invasive here. Spraying with Ortho's Poison Ivy and Tough Brush Killer was the final answer for me. I fought it for 8 years and it covered 50' x 12', invaded the lawn and daylilies.

A typical day was 6 hours of digging to try to eliminate it - hopeless. The spray works. I use it as the concentrate and do not dilute it.

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Nov 16, 2013 8:58 AM CST
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I've met the "chamelion" Houttuynia, so I can foresee what you are saying....

Oh well - my friend's bed could use a fresh digging and redoing anyway......
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Nov 16, 2013 10:15 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
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pirl said:
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Holy alien roots, Batman!
I hope everyone realizes that those three roots are tree roots, and the mass of roots in the bag are the culprits.
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Nov 17, 2013 8:21 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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The bowl contains stones I found as I dug to unearth the horrid weed. I keep all the stones and use them for other projects, mainly because the noise of the trowel hitting the stones bothers my ears. Often I was down a foot or more and scraping the bottoms of the pine roots to get every single piece.

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Finding even a small piece meant there was trouble brewing below so it was many more hours of digging in each and every spot.


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The tiny pieces at the left meant I was digging again. This time I had to go under the timbers and scrape the bottoms of the timbers (and the pine root) with a knife, since the tiniest remnants would begin the horror anew.


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I have 293 photos of my battle with this monster and they do serve to remind me to check carefully before I buy a plant to be sure it won't end up being another Houttuynia cordata 'Chameleon'.
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Nov 17, 2013 9:04 AM CST
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I use buckets with holes drilled in the bottom to contain mints, bee balm, lysimachia, etc. when I plant them in the ground. With mint at least, you have to leave a couple of inches of the bucket rim above soil level (soil level both inside and outside the pot) or they will flop over and root that way. I was lucky to find some black buckets that absolutely do not show at all. You could spray paint a white bucket black - or you could find some huge plastic pots that maybe someone got some bushes/trees in. I bought some of those from a guy at a flea market.....

There ARE ways....

Also, I think that when I redo my friend's bed I might just leave those Houttuynia in there, remove the crummy looking plants, and underplant the Houttuynia with tall things..... BULBS, certainly, but maybe rudbeckia, etc.
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Nov 17, 2013 9:14 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Our mint is grown in a pot, held high above the ground by a holder I don't even remember buying. It's a blessing.
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Trying to remove your friend's Houttuynia would be a big job if it's been there for a year or more. I can only wish you the best of luck. Your friend is certainly fortunate having you to help.
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Nov 17, 2013 10:18 AM CST
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I love the doing of it!

I think I'll refurbish by removing some not-so-lovely plants and leaving the Houttuynia in there.
The bed is bounded by driveway, walkway, and house.

I chose in ground buckets for mints and such here in zone 5 so they can hibernate as usual. I'd have to bring clay pots in or they'd crack.
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Nov 17, 2013 4:45 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
Region: Ukraine Dahlias I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Houseplants Tomato Heads Garden Ideas: Level 1
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Mine did crack eventually and I replaced it with terra cotta colored plastic.

You are a splendid friend.
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Nov 17, 2013 5:09 PM CST
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Surprisingly GREEN Pittsburgh (Zone 6a)
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I do try.
Some see me as a big help, some don't.
BUT I love the garden as much as I care about the people who live in the house, so......
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