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Saradl
Aug 24, 2013 11:40 AM CST
I recently moved into a new home with wonderful gardens, but I am unsure of several plants. I would love to know what they are so that I can better care for them. Attached are a few pictures. Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide.
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 24, 2013 12:02 PM CST
Welcome to ATP! Welcome!
That last one looks like it might be an Abutilon of some sort. You'd do better posting this over in the Plant ID forum. Perhaps @dave could move it over there for you.

Oops, forgot to include the link to the Plant ID forum: http://garden.org/forums/view/plantid/
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 24, 2013 12:11 PM CST
The first one is American Beautyberry but if you want to get fancy, you can call it French Mulberry. The birds love to eat the berries in the winter. New plants are easy to start from cuttings.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 24, 2013 12:17 PM CST
C'mon woofie, what's the second one?

Could it be a Fatsia japonica? IDK

My apologies because I am still learning the new @ thingie; I should have posted:

C'mon @woofie...etc.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
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Name: Dave Whitinger
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dave
Aug 24, 2013 12:44 PM CST

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The 2nd photo reminds me of a papaya.
Name: stone
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stone
Aug 24, 2013 12:48 PM CST
1) callicarpa americana
2) fatsia japonica
3) Malvaviscus arboreus
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Aug 24, 2013 12:52 PM CST
I agree with Greene…Looks like Fatsia japonica to me too. I wonder what part of the country Saradl is in?
Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 24, 2013 12:52 PM CST
#1 Callicarpa americana (American Beautyberry): American Beautyberry (Callicarpa americana)

#2 Fatsia japonica: Fatsia (Fatsia japonica)

#3 Malvaviscus arboreus (Turk's Cap): Turk's Cap (Malvaviscus arboreus)
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Saradl
Aug 24, 2013 12:58 PM CST
Thank you all so much! I am in north central Texas. The lady I bought the house from was an avid gardener, but she left no notes. I was able to id the hostas and hydrangeas, even found the taxus yew online. These three were really stumping me and she has them in multiple locations. Thanks again for the help!!! Group hug Thumbs up
Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 24, 2013 1:09 PM CST
Please tell @dave that I was only guessing on the second one.
...he, he...
...(silently patting myself on the back that I got it correct)
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 24, 2013 1:29 PM CST
Heh, I was only guessing on the third one, too. Except I got it wrong. *Blush* Hey, what do I know about the stuff you guys grow in Texas! Hilarious! And how come there's no zone information on that American beautyberry? That is really pretty and I was trying to figure out if maybe it would grow here. Does anyone know what zone it's hardy to?
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Name: Lin
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plantladylin
Aug 24, 2013 1:47 PM CST
Woofie: the database lists the minimum cold hardiness zone for American Beautyberry as 6A. It really is a beautiful plant; grows real well down here in the humid south. YOu could probably grow it as a container plant but it would definitely need protection during harsh winters. Smiling
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 24, 2013 1:51 PM CST
Maybe we should (gently) require posters to supply their location when they as for IDs?
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Name: woofie
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woofie
Aug 24, 2013 2:14 PM CST
Hmmm, Lin, either I'm blind (a distinct possibility Hilarious! ) or someone was really quick about adding zone information! I swear that wasn't there when I looked earlier!
Well, I guess whether I can grow it here depends on who I believe now, because the PTBs are trying to convince me that I'm really in zone 6 now.

"Maybe we should (gently) require posters to supply their location when they as for IDs?"
How about just "encouraging" rather than requiring? Smiling

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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Aug 24, 2013 2:34 PM CST
We can't require posters to give any particular information. I think there are some posters who would rather not make their area public (just as some don't want their given names out there) and there are probably "new" gardeners who don't know about zones or realize that what I grow in Florida may not grow in the NW and vice versa. I usually ask if they can give us a general idea of the part of the country they live in.

Woofie: Rolling on the floor laughing I miss stuff all the time in the database ... sometimes I think I need to slow down and not speed read ... but other times I swear "that wasn't there two seconds ago!" Green Grin!
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Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Aug 24, 2013 2:35 PM CST
*Blush* I had to come right back to this thread because I swore I hit "enter" twice. I really expected to see that I'd double posted. Rolling on the floor laughing
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Name: Greene
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greene
Aug 24, 2013 4:45 PM CST
woofie, I would only try to grow it in your zone next to a badly insulated, overheated building.

How about Callicarpa japonica? That one is good for your zone woofie...er...@woofie.
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Name: stone
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stone
Aug 25, 2013 4:14 AM CST
A coupla years ago, I saw pictures on someone's blog of beautyberry used as a foundation planting...
http://birdsandbloomsblog.com/2011/05/14/american-beautyberr...

Neat idea... I'm going to be adding a few around my house... after making sure that I don't destroy any of the desirable naturals...

I've also seen the Malvaviscus arboreus used as a foundation planting as the first post shows, but I think it is nicer in an area where it has room to spread... those people who try to tame that beauty... are missing out... or something. Beautiful hummingbird / butterfly plant!


Name: Lin
Florida (Zone 9b)
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plantladylin
Aug 25, 2013 11:56 AM CST
Thanks stone for that link! I really like the looks of that hedge planting of the Callicarpa! I miss the Beautyberry shrub at our old house and I wonder if it's still there. We have two young tenants and they aren't into a lot of landscape upkeep so they may have mowed/chopped it down. They have two little dogs that they were worried about getting into and eating the plants. Someone told them a lot of plants are poisonous to canines and there was one Brugmansia in the backyard that I gave them permission to take out but hopefully everything else has remained; although the elderly backyard neighbor never liked the large Beautyberry shrub ... it encroached through the fence into her yard and at one time she wanted to pour weed killer on it to get rid of it! I told her that the birds loved the fruit and she is a bird lover so hopefully she didn't kill that plant. I should have tried digging it up and transplanting it over here but I might just have to buy another one for this yard!
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Name: stone
near Macon Georgia (USA) (Zone 8a)
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stone
Aug 26, 2013 7:17 AM CST
Beautyberry is very easy to grow from cuttings... I just stick them in the ground... No rotting hormone or bottom heat, or any of that stuff.
You can eat the berries, too.
I've seen recipes for jelly.
The leaves can be used to repel mosquitoes.
Definitely a neat native.

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