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Sep 1, 2013 11:11 AM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
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I'm interested in adding Brugs that have double and triple skirts to my collection. I would love to know the best nurseries, where I can order rooted plants for next year.
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Sep 1, 2013 1:52 PM CST
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Name: JT Sessions
Milton,Fl.
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I always recommend Liz Fichtl at Arghaya gardens.She sells mostly on Ebay.You can be sure of getting correctly named plants from her and she has a good assortment.If anyone remembers her ebay name please add it.I will look it up and if no one adds it I will.her ebay name is arghayagardens.Imagine that.
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Sep 1, 2013 3:30 PM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
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Thanks JT, I have ordered from Liz before through BGI also. She sends wonderful plants. Any other sources?
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Sep 2, 2013 8:29 AM CST
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Name: JT Sessions
Milton,Fl.
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If you have access to BGI's seller list,all of those can be trusted to send correct plants or to make good on their mistakes.Otherwise it's a minefield of mislabeled plants and sellers who couldn't care less once they get your money.There is even one well known ebay seller that just sends a plant,usually Frosty Pink,with whatever label
you ordered.Look at it this way;a seller who cares about his labels and customers, will usually belong to one,or both,the brug societies and will have a good enough reputation to be listed on their trusted seller list.Ebay feedback means almost nothing since by the time you find out you have been "had" its too late to give bad feedback..
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Sep 2, 2013 10:00 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
Hummingbirder Region: Georgia Daylilies Clematis Charter ATP Member Bulbs
Thanks JT, I'll stick to the vendors that BGI recommends. It is unfortunate that some sellers elsewhere just don't care that a buyer wants a named plant. I tend not to buy plants from eBay.

Annette
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Sep 22, 2013 2:07 PM CST
Name: Rhapsody Hooks
Long Beach Ca USA (Zone 10a)
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I don't know why more nurseries don't carry them. They are so pretty. Lovey dubby I am trying to talk my local one into more varieties. If I make enough fuss maybe they will! Good Luck.

Rhaps
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Sep 22, 2013 2:12 PM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
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Thanks Rhapsody!
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Sep 22, 2013 2:25 PM CST
Name: Rhapsody Hooks
Long Beach Ca USA (Zone 10a)
Cat Lover Winter Sowing Moon Gardener Plumerias Tropicals Roses
Bee Lover Butterflies Region: California Cottage Gardener Herbs Composter
I just started rooting some of mine. We will see how it goes!!
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Sep 22, 2013 6:51 PM CST
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Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
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Good luck with rooting the plants. I'm lousy at it. I've tried rooting plants in water, and I've also tried them in loose potting soil, no luck. I may try again since its so warm, maybe I'll have better luck.
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Sep 23, 2013 12:19 AM CST
Name: Rhapsody Hooks
Long Beach Ca USA (Zone 10a)
Cat Lover Winter Sowing Moon Gardener Plumerias Tropicals Roses
Bee Lover Butterflies Region: California Cottage Gardener Herbs Composter
You and I are twins. I would even kill the cuttings that would root if you dropped them on the ground and forgot about it. I found 2 methods that work for people like us. Lovey dubby

The first thing is the container... NO GLASS INSIDE THE HOUSE. Use a Styrofoam cup... yes use the stinking cup. Why you may ask? It is 95% air so the stems breathe in water... no kidding. Thumbs up Now you only need to change that water ever other day. And no more then three cuttings per cup. And use a Brita Filter to remove the chlorine.

The second thing is sphagnum moss... Moisten the moss with warm water. Squeeze it out. Stuff it in that stryrofoam cup. Make a small hole in the moss. Put in the cutting. Snuggle it up!! Put on a heating mat... walk away. You will have plantable roots in one week... again... no kidding. You will need to remove the moss before putting the cutting in the soil.

One additional think. Ask who ever is sending you a cutting NOT to put rooting hormone on it. Most don't need it but here is the kicker... if you do not know the rooting hormone is already on the cutting and you re-dip it... that cutting is a good as dead. Grumbling That was a $200.00 mistake. Angry

Now I will show you a picture of my setup. This is a large dry fish tank with a small personal fan inside for circulation. It has a glass clover to keep my bad kitties out. I root in water for one week in what???? that Styrofoam cup!!! nodding Then I move them into 6 oz plastic cups with drain holes at the bottom and water them in ONCE with water only. They stay for another week inside the house. Then outside under the umbrella for a week and watered again ONCE with 1/4 strength liquid fertilizer. By this time they have decent roots so a little fertilizer works nicely. Then to the sun they go and are watered regularly with 1/2 strength liquid fertilizer. Once they are 6 weeks old they are plants and get full strength fertilizer.

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That is my 2 cents.

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Sep 23, 2013 8:22 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
Hummingbirder Region: Georgia Daylilies Clematis Charter ATP Member Bulbs
Thanks for sharing how you root your plants. I feel a bit more optimistic about trying again. I've killed off at least 15-20 cuttings and young plants over the last few years. Some of the cuttings were free from a contest I won on BGI, and I had a few plants that I ordered from vendors that were small, and they didn't survive my torture.

It's amazing that I have plants that survive our winters in the ground, and come back from the roots, yet plants that live in my warm basement for the winter don't make it Angry I will be taking cuttings of Michele O., Klein Lady, and Angel's Honeymoon. I'm going to hold off on ordering any new plants, since we're heading into the low to mid 50's in the next week. I'll have to start taking in the tropical plants in pots inside in the next few weeks.

BTW, your advice is worth waayyyy more than 2 cents! I always find it helpful to learn from the experience of others.

Annette
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Sep 23, 2013 11:55 PM CST
Name: Rhapsody Hooks
Long Beach Ca USA (Zone 10a)
Cat Lover Winter Sowing Moon Gardener Plumerias Tropicals Roses
Bee Lover Butterflies Region: California Cottage Gardener Herbs Composter
Thanks Annette. I do try hard! I tip my hat to you.
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Sep 24, 2013 7:13 AM CST
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Name: JT Sessions
Milton,Fl.
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One reason more nurseries do not carry brugs and daturas is the perceived liability.Given the IQ level of some of our teenagers the nurseries just decide it's not worth the risk.When we had Country Garden up and running at top speed,we had brugs,for display, planted along our fence.Big mistake.After a couple of midnight raids we moved them and got a big dog.
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Sep 24, 2013 1:05 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
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Just tried to order plants from Arghaya Gardens website, but got frustrated and gave up. Even their section on "Contact Us" would not let me send a message.

All they've got for sale on Ebay right now are seeds of crosses for $5 and I don't really want to mess with starting seeds.

Anybody know how to get in touch with them? They are just up the road from me in St. Pete, but the site says they do not sell to the public. So I can't go there, and there isn't a phone number on the site either.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Sep 24, 2013 11:03 PM CST
Name: Rhapsody Hooks
Long Beach Ca USA (Zone 10a)
Cat Lover Winter Sowing Moon Gardener Plumerias Tropicals Roses
Bee Lover Butterflies Region: California Cottage Gardener Herbs Composter
If you belong to BGI Liz is there. She answered my emails there. Have you written to her on Ebay? Edna has cutting at BGI as well. Another lady just posted her plants and cuttings. www.gardensbykasha.ecrater.com Then there is Alice... beloved1****, getting her to send cuttings takes a lot of time a patience so if you are in a hurry.... And then there is Fred http://sommergardens.com/ he sends great plants. I have been advised about a few seller on Ebay. I do not think this is the place to say anything but if you email. I would stir clear of them though. Better safe then sorry! Angel
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Sep 25, 2013 8:01 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Thanks, Rhapsody! I really want to order from Arghaya because they are in St. Pete, which is so close to me, the plants will be in transit for a miminal amount of time. I'll see if I can contact Liz through Ebay.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Sep 25, 2013 9:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Annette
Cumming, GA (Zone 8a)
Birds Roses Plumerias Peonies Lilies Irises
Hummingbirder Region: Georgia Daylilies Clematis Charter ATP Member Bulbs
Liz sends beautiful plants. My Angel's Honeymoon, Savoy Truffle and Michele O came from her in 2011.
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Sep 26, 2013 6:37 AM CST
Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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Why don't you ask JT he used to own that co.
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Sep 26, 2013 7:35 AM CST
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Name: JT Sessions
Milton,Fl.
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kareoke said:Why don't you ask JT he used to own that co.


Not so.Our company was Country Garden.Liz always has been a different company.I do count it a big plus though to have been friends for years.You can count on her to send excellent plants.
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Sep 26, 2013 7:38 AM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
But I still can't seem to get in touch with her.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill

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