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Sep 21, 2013 11:43 AM CST
Name: Karen
Enterprise, FL (Zone 9b)
Hi Della

I sent seed to Australia this year and also ship Daylilies to Australia. Feel free to tree mail me if you need any help.

Karen Pierce
Floyd Cove Nursery
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Sep 24, 2013 4:26 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Thanks Karen Smiling Do you list seed on the LA?
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Sep 24, 2013 12:59 PM CST
Name: Karen
Enterprise, FL (Zone 9b)
Hi Della

We don't do much seed but had some extra this year so decided to list them. We use Gpierce. We don't have any currently and don't really plan to get into that market but my seed arrived in Aussie without opening and no issues with AQIS so I thought if you needed any help I could give you my experience. Just let me know if I can help you further.

Karen
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Oct 31, 2013 11:53 AM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Hello everyone,
I am one who will be sending Hemerocallis seed to Della. It isF2 seed of H. altissima x H. 'Siloam Ury Winniford'

I'd like to include a letter listing species parentage similar to Hemlady's posted above http://garden.org/thread/view_...
but I can't find what the parentage might be for Siloam Ury Winniford, or even for any of Pauline Henry's introductions.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Oct 31, 2013 12:14 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
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Don't all of the daylily hybrids go back to one or more of the original species at some point? I would think that by listing what Hemlady named, it would cover them all, and you'd be safe. I doubt that she crossed these species to get the seeds, but instead used hybrids to get the seeds. That is the way that I read the letter, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
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Oct 31, 2013 12:26 PM CST
Name: Jan
Hustisford, WI
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I agree with Natalie, that's what the letter sounds like to me - going back to the original "parentage"
Jan
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Oct 31, 2013 2:13 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
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Yes, the original parent species. (Isn't that what I said?) That's what I am going for. I'm fine with just listing Hemlady's list, but if there were any additional species that Henry would have used, I'd list them too. I thought someone here might know.....
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. - Socrates
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Oct 31, 2013 3:10 PM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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I agree. I think they all come from species daylilies. Anyway, I did send seed to Australia about 2 weeks ago with the above letter included. Haven't heard whether or not the lady got the seed yet. I will post when I hear from her.
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Oct 31, 2013 5:34 PM CST
Name: Becky
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)
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I wonder if Australia can accept "small lots" of seeds? I know many countries do allow that.

I recently received an email saying my permit was expiring as they are only good for 3 years.

http://www.gardeningoncloud9.c...

Where to apply:
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/perm...

I can't remember if this is just for importing seeds to the USA or for also sending seeds to other countries. I haven't used mine in years!

Edited to add this: It is for importing seeds TO the USA! Sorry, but apparently may not solve the problem for us to send to other countries. I had heard that Australia is very strict and enforces their laws.
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Oct 31, 2013 5:38 PM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
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Leftwood said:Yes, the original parent species. (Isn't that what I said?) That's what I am going for. I'm fine with just listing Hemlady's list, but if there were any additional species that Henry would have used, I'd list them too. I thought someone here might know.....

You mentioned wanting the parentage of H. 'Siloam Ury Winniford', so I thought you were trying to include that, as well.
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Oct 31, 2013 7:02 PM CST
Name: Rick R.
Minneapolis,MN, USA z4b,Dfb/a
Garden Photography The WITWIT Badge Seed Starter Wild Plant Hunter Region: Minnesota Hybridizer
Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Identifier Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Thanks so much, everyone. Thumbs up
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Nov 1, 2013 5:06 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Oh - I need to do some updating!

I'm still waiting for your seeds to arrive, Hemlady. Shouldn't take too much longer! I've received a few lots now from sellers, and postage time from US has ranged between 1-4 weeks.

And I've learned a bit along the way. Apparently Aust. is not quite as with it as New Zealand customs! Things don't get onto the approved species list until someone specifically requests to import it and applies for it to be added. After the application is made, Canberra takes between 3-6 months to research it and be convinced it isn't the next Patterson's Curse or Lantana... then it makes it onto the permitted species list!

While New Zealand has recognised the complexity of Hemerocallis breeding and classified all hybrids as a permitted group, Australia still has many Hemerocallis species unassessed - including H. plicata - and doesn't recognise hybrids as a group. (Hence the genetic heritage hunt Rolling my eyes. ) This means that complex modern hybrids as already exist and are traded within Australia, technically wouldn't be allowed in if anyone nominated H. plicata as part of the genetic heritage....

Because it is so labourious and slow to change the list, it seems the horticultural standard around this is just to call something an H. fulva hybrid and get on with business.

But it irks me! I have the paperwork here to get H. plicata assessed, and I was going to add a bunch of other neglected species and hybrids as a group while I'm at it. Whether I go ahead ...or leave a beauracratic leviathan to its wrongness Whistling

And for all this fuss, how many seed lots into Australia actually get inspected? I trust myself to inspect and destroy anything that might be a real risk more than I trust the system.

umm... did that sound like a rant that might have been inspired by a week on the phone with customs agents? Hilarious!

But in the end I have babies growing, they are not a threat to our ecosystem and I'm happy Smiling
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Nov 1, 2013 6:03 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
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Great Thumbs up Thumbs up
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Nov 1, 2013 10:12 AM CST
Name: Natalie
North Central Idaho (Zone 7a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Dog Lover Daylilies Irises Plant Lover: Loves 'em all! Hummingbirder
Frogs and Toads Native Plants and Wildflowers Cottage Gardener Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Region: United States of America Xeriscape
That is great news Della! You'll eventually be known far and wide as the person who made Australia more beautiful because of additional daylilies!
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Nov 2, 2013 5:51 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
If I can't stop them raising hideous buildings I can cover the nation in flowers - I can dream! Hilarious!
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Nov 2, 2013 6:25 AM CST
Name: Jan
Hustisford, WI
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cat Lover Daylilies Dog Lover Irises Region: United States of America
Region: Wisconsin
Well done Della- we need to see pictures at some point! ~Jan
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Nov 5, 2013 5:23 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: della
hobart, tasmania
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Photo Contest Winner: 2015
Indeed :D

Hemlady, your seeds made it through today - each one healthy and safe Hurray!

Thank you and thanks all Smiling
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Nov 5, 2013 6:02 AM CST
Name: Cynthia (Cindy)
Melvindale, Mi (Zone 5b)
Daylilies Hybridizer Irises Butterflies Charter ATP Member Million Pollinator Garden Challenge
Birds Region: Michigan Vegetable Grower Hummingbirder Heucheras Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
So glad Della. I began to worry when you said it took 4 weeks. I thought maybe being packaged that long would cause condensation and molding. Thanks for letting us all know. Thumbs up
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Nov 5, 2013 6:15 AM CST
Name: Glen Ingram
Macleay Is, Qld, Australia (Zone 12a)
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Yes, tell us how the seed goes. However, you are close to Antarctica in Tasmania. Rolling my eyes.
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Nov 5, 2013 6:49 AM CST
Name: Teresa Felty Barrow
South central KY (Zone 6b)
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Welcome to the Daylily forum. I grow a lot of perennials, but daylilies are my favorite!

Please post pics of you seedlings and when they bloom.

Spreading beauty to this world, grow flowers!
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