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Sep 17, 2013 1:01 PM CST
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Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
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Dave is there a way you can set the 'Proposal' area to decline a duplicate entry when I click on Approve?
When there a 200 or 300 hundred proposals from more than on person, it is not easy to know if duplicate proposals have been made.
Some I catch, others are slipping through the cracks. Sad
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Sep 17, 2013 2:01 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
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Not really. The duplicate checking occurs only when the proposal is first made. So it's up to the moderators to make sure that duplicate proposals aren't submitted.
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Sep 17, 2013 2:05 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
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Sep 18, 2013 12:10 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
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Would sorting the moderation queue alphabetically by name put the duplicates right next to each other?

Maybe add a button that produces a report from the moderation queue listing just pending names in alphabetical order.
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Sep 18, 2013 1:18 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
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I don't think this happens often enough to warrant extra programming. There are simpler ways of detecting duplicate proposals of new plants. If the moderator goes to the alphabetical page of the genus, where the new plant will appear after approval, and sees that it's already there, the proposal must be a duplicate.
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Sep 18, 2013 2:55 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Everett WA 98204 (Zone 8a)
Sunset Zone 5. Koppen Csb. Eco 2f
Frugal Gardener Garden Procrastinator I helped beta test the first seed swap Plant and/or Seed Trader Seed Starter Region: Pacific Northwest
Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Garden Ideas: Master Level Garden Sages I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database.
Oh!

I thought the problem was when a plant not yet in the database at all, was added into a moderation queue twice (before either proposal was approved into the main database).

In other words, a way to search the moderation queue for more than one entry with the same name. I was also assuming that the database did not update instantly each time a proposal was approved - as if there was a batch process that only ran occasionally.

So ignore the idea. "Assumption makes an ass of me and umption."
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Sep 18, 2013 6:41 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Rick that is my problem, a long list from more than one person proposing the same name.
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Sep 18, 2013 7:09 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
That's quite a coincidence that two people would submit the same plant near the same time like that. How often do the proposals wait in the queue before they are approved (or declined)?

Once a proposal is approved, then future proposals for that plant will stop because at that point the duplicate checker can work.
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Sep 18, 2013 7:17 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
We are running into trouble with it not always denying a new proposal when there is an entry.

Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Prim and Proper')

When there are over 200 proposals to do it takes awhile to get through the list of new proposals. The new plant has to be verified and hybridizer information added to each one.
Can there be a way to notify some one that a proposal has already been submitted?
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Sep 18, 2013 7:46 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
It shouldn't take that long to get through new proposals. The verification process is understandably necessary, but couldn't you add the hybridizer information after all of the new proposals have been processed?
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Sep 18, 2013 7:56 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
Rick, to answer your question: The search takes some time to update, but the plant is entered in the database immediately, so looking on the database page where the new entry will go will tell you whether the plant is already there or not. If you're working with a series of proposals that might be in alphabetical order and therefore would go on the same page of the database and if there is a chance of duplicates, it's important to refresh the page to make sure no new plant of the same name has been added.
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Sep 18, 2013 8:11 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
How would I find all of the new ones Zuzu, to make sure I get the information filled in?
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Sep 18, 2013 8:16 PM CST
Plants Admin
Name: Zuzu
Northern California (Zone 9a)
Region: Ukraine Charter ATP Member Region: California Cat Lover Roses Clematis
Irises Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant Identifier Garden Sages Plant Database Moderator Garden Ideas: Master Level
That's easy, Lynn. Just go to this page and click on "or see recent additions." Smiling

The Sempervivum Database
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Sep 19, 2013 12:27 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
An extra point to make: a few members have asked that they be removed from the "Duplicate Plant Checker" system. That means the system does NOT check for duplicates when they are proposing a new plant be added.

@sandnsea2 is one of those members.
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Sep 19, 2013 12:35 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
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No, Dave I don't remember making that request.

If I did please remove my name.

Of course I DO want the system to check for dups.
Thanks!!

PS I do remember when I was moderating Daffodils, I asked for no dup checking on new entries, as there are valid registered duplicate Daffodil names.
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The other is as though everything is a miracle
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Last edited by sandnsea2 Sep 19, 2013 12:40 PM Icon for preview
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Sep 19, 2013 12:54 PM CST
Garden.org Admin
Name: Dave Whitinger
Southlake, Texas (Zone 8a)
Region: Texas Seed Starter Vegetable Grower Tomato Heads Vermiculture Garden Research Contributor
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Region: Ukraine Garden Sages
I've removed you from the exception list so now you get the duplicate checking feature like everyone else. Thumbs up
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Sep 19, 2013 1:33 PM CST
Name: Janice
Cape Cod, MA, USA (Zone 7a)
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Cottage Gardener Garden Ideas: Master Level Sempervivums Tip Photographer
Daylilies Roses Orchids Miniature Gardening Lilies Irises
Great thanks Dave.
There are two ways to live your life.
One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle
- Albert Einstein.
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Sep 19, 2013 5:48 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Lynn
Oregon City, OR (Zone 8b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages I helped plan and beta test the plant database. I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Plant Database Moderator
Forum moderator I helped beta test the first seed swap Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Plant and/or Seed Trader Garden Ideas: Master Level
Semps are on the list for duplicate watch, and I wouldn't want to be without it. Thumbs up
But there isn't such a thing when Proposals are being made.
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