Roses forum: Rosa 'New Dawn'

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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Nov 18, 2013 12:09 PM CST
This is my first Rose. Purchased at Lowe's earlier this year, and it was tagged as a 'New Dawn' yellow. Sadly, I have misplaced the tag, and I'm wondering if any of you are familiar with this Rose? The only entries I've found for 'New Dawn' are white. Is there a way that I can verify 'New Dawn'? In yellow? It is beautiful, and wonderfully fragrant.
Thanks for looking, and any opinions you may add. Smiling



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Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 18, 2013 3:08 PM CST
That's a lovely rose, but I don't think it is New Dawn. As you noted she is either pale pink or white (White New Dawn) Probably someone here can identify your rose; it will help if you can tell all you know about it: thorns, fragrance, etc..
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Name: Zuzu
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zuzu
Nov 18, 2013 3:22 PM CST

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As Porkpal said, New Dawn is pink. There is a White New Dawn and a New Dawn Rouge, but no yellow rose has been given that name. Presumably, it would have to be a climber to warrant the use of the "New Dawn" name by Lowe's, so I think you'll have to look through the yellow climbers to find the correct name. If it was a relatively inexpensive rose, it probably is not patented, and the only one I can think of that's sold regularly in the chain nurseries is Golden Showers, which doesn't match the shape of the rose in your photos.

Rose (Rosa 'Golden Showers')
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zuzu
Nov 18, 2013 3:26 PM CST

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Here's a possible ID. It could be Sun Flare, which was sold to me years ago as Yellow Blaze. It's a climbing floribunda with high-centered blooms.

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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Nov 18, 2013 4:59 PM CST
Wow! Thanks so much… @porkpal, this may give you an idea of the thorns...
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And as far as the fragrance…I'm not sure how to describe it…One morning, I went out and thought for a minute there that I was smelling something ick…Almost insecticidal, but later in the day, it was a very mild pleasant fragrance. "Pleasant" doesn't give much to go on. *Blush* I'll have to spend some time with this one on the fragrance to see if I can come up with something more descriptive.

Thanks for what you've given me so far! Also you @zuzu… SO much to learn with Roses! I tip my hat to you.

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porkpal
Nov 18, 2013 5:49 PM CST
The scent is reported to be licorice. I can't tell how thorny Sun Flare is from the pictures in the database; perhaps Zuzu knows. Her photo certainly looks like your rose.
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terrafirma
Nov 22, 2013 8:14 PM CST
I brought a beautiful bud into the house yesterday, so that I could enjoy the visual beauty and the fragrance. I'm still trying to determine what rose it may be. Hubby said that the fragrance reminded him of a rose that his Grandmother grew some 50 years ago. A bush, Red, bloomed off and on all year long.
I'd love to be able to identify this one…Any and all opinions are greatly appreciated!
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Name: Mike
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Calsurf73
Nov 22, 2013 8:52 PM CST
Could it possibly be King's Ransom ???
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zuzu
Nov 22, 2013 9:25 PM CST

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It doesn't seem to have as many petals as King's Ransom.

Rose (Rosa 'King's Ransom')

We were presuming that it had to be a climber to be sold as New Dawn Yellow, and King's Ransom is a hybrid tea that doesn't climb.
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 22, 2013 10:29 PM CST
Since it was sold by Lowes, I would not be surprised if it were completely mislabeled and not even a climber.
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Calsurf73
Nov 23, 2013 7:47 AM CST
Major "ditto" to what Porkpal just said !
Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Nov 23, 2013 8:17 AM CST
Alas, yes, I wouldn't be surprised either. Shrug! Oh well, I'll just enjoy it for what it is, and not worry about putting a name to it. Thanks, everyone! Big Grin
Name: Porkpal
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porkpal
Nov 23, 2013 8:43 AM CST
Perhaps as it grows larger, it will be easier to identify...
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Name: Tara
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terrafirma
Nov 23, 2013 9:20 AM CST
I tip my hat to you. Perhaps... Smiling

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