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Protecting In-Ground Plants When Unseasonable Ice, Sleet, Snow, or Freeze Conditions Present

By flaflwrgrl
February 25, 2014

I sit here writing this on 1/28/14 while we await abnormal winter weather to strike this evening. Here in the south our perennials are showing signs of tender new spring growth, but the weather is predicted to give us a beating for the next 2 days in the form of unseasonable ice pellets and mixed winter precipitation, to include snow or sleet.

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Name: Greene
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greene
Feb 24, 2014 6:12 PM CST
In a pinch I covered each plant with the large paper yard waste bags then topped that with the plastic buckets - what an assortment!! My yard looked very decorative indeed. Thanks.
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 24, 2014 6:27 PM CST
greene said:In a pinch I covered each plant with the large paper yard waste bags then topped that with the plastic buckets - what an assortment!! My yard looked very decorative indeed. Thanks.

I tip my hat to you.
Yes. Colorful! I believe Strother Martin said that line so well. Hilarious!
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Name: virginiarose
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virginiarose
Feb 24, 2014 6:30 PM CST
Thanks for the tip on the buckets! I love your yard, that seating area is so beautiful. Thumbs up
Susan

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Marilyn
Feb 24, 2014 6:39 PM CST
virginiarose said:Thanks for the tip on the buckets! I love your yard, that seating area is so beautiful. Thumbs up
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 24, 2014 7:02 PM CST
Thank You! Susan & Marilyn! And thank you Rick & Susan for the acorns!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: virginiarose
Virginia
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virginiarose
Feb 24, 2014 7:31 PM CST
I tip my hat to you.
Susan

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Name: Neil
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NEILMUIR1
Feb 25, 2014 5:43 AM CST
Whilst Head Gardener on a big estate open to the public, one of my duties was to look after the Victorian kitchen garden. The wonderful and most knowledgeable Lady owner of the estate always wanted sea kale (Crambe maritima), for the kitchen! To this end in Victorian times large terracotta pots were made so as to force the sea kale up in spring and to blanch or whiten the stems which are eaten.
These huge and frost resistant pots were found by me to be ideal to protect many ornamental plants from the damaging snow & ice.
Some plants especially on this estate died due to too much cold/rain and not ice. So if a lot of rain was forecast the said plants were covered for as long as the rain lasted.
Luckily we had hundreds of these terracotta pots. They were designed to cover plants and not to be used as a normal pot. They also had a small hole in the top, to allow some air circulation. A Victorian wonder indeed.
Regards.
Neil.
p.s. Remarkably these pots are still made look here. http://www.littlethorpepotteries.co.uk/forcers.asp
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Name: virginiarose
Virginia
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virginiarose
Feb 25, 2014 6:47 AM CST
Those are very nice! Thanks for sharing you experiences. Thumbs up
Susan

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Name: Greene
Savannah, GA (Sunset 28) (Zone 8b)
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greene
Feb 25, 2014 7:17 AM CST
You had me at whilst. Lovey dubby
Sunset Zone 28, AHS Heat Zone 9, USDA zone 8b~~"Leaf of Faith"
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
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virginiarose
Feb 25, 2014 8:52 AM CST
http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/while_whilst....

Lovey dubby I love the way he talks, I think he is British! Whilst is an old fashioned word (while) and he was talking about the Victorian era, I thought it was a good choice especially since he is British. Green Grin!
Susan

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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 25, 2014 11:09 AM CST
NEILMUIR1 said:Whilst Head Gardener on a big estate open to the public, one of my duties was to look after the Victorian kitchen garden. The wonderful and most knowledgeable Lady owner of the estate always wanted sea kale (Crambe maritima), for the kitchen! To this end in Victorian times large terracotta pots were made so as to force the sea kale up in spring and to blanch or whiten the stems which are eaten.
These huge and frost resistant pots were found by me to be ideal to protect many ornamental plants from the damaging snow & ice.
Some plants especially on this estate died due to too much cold/rain and not ice. So if a lot of rain was forecast the said plants were covered for as long as the rain lasted.
Luckily we had hundreds of these terracotta pots. They were designed to cover plants and not to be used as a normal pot. They also had a small hole in the top, to allow some air circulation. A Victorian wonder indeed.
Regards.
Neil.
p.s. Remarkably these pots are still made look here. ]http://www.littlethorpepotteries.co.uk/forcers.asp

How interesting Neil! Thank you so much for sharing this story & the link with us. Those pots are so cool!
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Neil
London\Kent Border
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NEILMUIR1
Feb 25, 2014 11:32 AM CST
Dear Susan, thank you so much for your support of the English language. One must keep up the British stiff upper lip, and retain the correct decorum on such important matters!
Of course we do have other languages in our but small island (s). Notably Scottish Gaelic, Irish Gaelic and Welsh. Then of course there is the distinct dialect between our counties. From Geordie in the northeast to Scouse from Liverpool in the north west. Of course Glaswegian is very difficult to understand, but it is possible. Then to the broad dialect of Yorkshire, which is easy for me as my father is a true Yorkshireman, whereas my mother is a Geordie (still in England of course). To cockney rhyming slang from London, we are all a bit strange.
However we do all understand each other whilst using the Queens English!
I do so hope this may sort matters out, If confused try the Oxford English Dictionary, which is at; http://www.oed.com/
Off for a pint of fine ale.
May you all prosper in your erstwhile endeavours, to find a cure for the damage the cold does to plants!
Personally I like the golden cloak of Autumn (fall), as it sets in, and my garden goes to sleep. Then our nations love of warming soups comes alive; of course made from vegetables nestling in the garden. Served with homemade bread and of course pints of foaming ales.
The cold and the rain we are used to, as it lasts all summer.
Regards from across the Atlantic.
Neil.
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Newyorkrita
Feb 25, 2014 4:57 PM CST
See, I knew there was some down side to living down south. Most of the winter you have it way better than we do. But I bet that ice and unseasonal weather is really tough on the plants. Great tip. Thumbs up
Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 25, 2014 6:04 PM CST
You betcha Rita! And we also can't winter sow b/c it might be 40 degrees one day & then 83 the next which would cause the seeds to sprout & begin growing way before they should.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
North Fl. (Zone 8b)
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flaflwrgrl
Feb 25, 2014 6:07 PM CST
I would like to thank everyone for the Thumbs up 's & the :acorn:'s! Thank You! I tip my hat to you.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



Name: virginiarose
Virginia
Money talks but Chocolate Sings!
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
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virginiarose
Feb 25, 2014 7:51 PM CST
Neil, thank you too! Seems that we have been very busy looking out the window and complaining about winter and here you go showing us that it's ok to enjoy it. Looking forward to warm soups, freshly baked bread and pints of ale. This all sounds so wonderful and we can use stuff from our own gardens, I will make some soup tomorrow, can't think of a better way to spend a cold day when I am off from work. Enjoy your ale!!
Susan

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt.....Margaret Atwood
Name: Neil
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NEILMUIR1
Feb 25, 2014 9:17 PM CST
Dear Susan, the British complain about the weather all the time. It is one of our National social pastimes. Rolling on the floor laughing If it gets above 65 F we moan a lot about the heat, if it rains too much we moan and complain if it does not rain enough! It changes here constantly, the weather so is much discussed over a pint of Ale.
Regards.
Neil.
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
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virginiarose
Feb 25, 2014 9:58 PM CST
Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing ...I understand completely. LOL.

Susan

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt.....Margaret Atwood
Name: Neil
London\Kent Border
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NEILMUIR1
Feb 25, 2014 10:00 PM CST
Dear Susan, the farming community is even worse at moaning about the weather!
Regards from a still flooded England.
Neil.
Name: virginiarose
Virginia
Money talks but Chocolate Sings!
I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Level 1 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Hibiscus Dragonflies Daylilies
Bee Lover Dahlias Butterflies Hostas Birds Lilies
virginiarose
Feb 25, 2014 10:00 PM CST
flaflwrgrl said:I would like to thank everyone for the Thumbs up 's & the :acorn:'s! Thank You! I tip my hat to you.


@flaflwrgrl..... Ann, You are very... Welcome!
Susan

In the spring, at the end of the day, you should smell like dirt.....Margaret Atwood

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