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Mar 1, 2014 6:12 PM CST
Name: Bev
Salem OR (Zone 8a)
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Succulents don't like their feet wet so maybe consider a semi-water plant?
But if there's a dry spot, maybe small succulent can survive...?
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Mar 1, 2014 7:50 PM CST
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What about a miniature fern?
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Mar 1, 2014 8:17 PM CST
Name: Connie
Willamette Valley OR (Zone 8a)
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When I was a kid I made these little gardens in seashells and kept them in my room. Most of the plants were actually weeds I found around outside (a weed is just a plant in the wrong place!). Anyhoo, I was thinking that maybe something suitable could be found growing in a wettish area; something that doesn't grow too big. My 2 cents. Hilarious!
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Mar 1, 2014 8:53 PM CST
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Great idea Connie.
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Mar 1, 2014 9:02 PM CST
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Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Thanks for all the ideas.

I gave it some thought. In addition to surviving in very wet soil, I need to find a plant that can grow in poor soil (due to constant exposure to the hard water in the waterfall). And I also need something whose roots are shallow and noninvasive (won't burrow into or through lava rock).

I don't know much about the root system of ferns, can they survive with shallow roots and will they burrow?
For that matter, will semp roots burrow into lava rock?
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Mar 1, 2014 9:10 PM CST
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Semps won't survive all that moisture. There are some sedum that will cling to porous rock.
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Mar 1, 2014 9:12 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Also I think semp roots can get quite long, so possible that it would burrow! I mini fern would probably have less of a root system to worry about
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Mar 1, 2014 9:15 PM CST
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Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Yeah, I wouldn't try putting the semps in the wet right spot.
There's a cleft/shelf on the left side that is dry that I've never attempted to plant anything there, but since I've gotten into semps it seems like a perfect spot for a small clump. (If they wouldn't cleave the rock off eventually due to root growth, of course.)
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Mar 1, 2014 9:16 PM CST
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Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Ah okay, thanks Greg.
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Mar 1, 2014 9:18 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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Is this water fall rock staying indoors? Because semps would be challenged by that, but there are several echevarias that look very similar to semps and would probably fit the bill if indoors!! Thumbs up
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Mar 1, 2014 9:21 PM CST
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Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Yeah, it's inside but near a window and also near a lamp that is nearly always on. I wouldn't expect any color change from green or anything, but I will also look into echevarias. Thanks again. Smiling
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Mar 1, 2014 9:33 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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JC in my experience trying to grow them indoors, these guys seem to like a lot of airflow, and I didn't use a fan or anything, they stayed small and green like you say, but almost dying, and then as soon as I planted them outdoors they took off!!!
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Mar 1, 2014 9:41 PM CST
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Name: J.C. S.
Kansas (Zone 6b)
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Okay, I'll wait to try that experiment until I have more chicks than I know what to do with, then maybe give it a shot with just one little one. Sticking tongue out
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Mar 1, 2014 9:46 PM CST
Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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haha yes!! In my imagining I say that semps don't do as well indoors because they're usually up where the mountain goats roam...but so many are hybridized in gardens at sea level, so I'm not really sure what is "true"
nodding I fully admit I have a very active imagination! Rolling on the floor laughing

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