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Mar 18, 2014 1:24 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
Birds Master Gardener: Florida Hibiscus Greenhouse Charter ATP Member Garden Photography
Bromeliad Region: Florida Orchids Roses Tropicals Region: United States of America
The presentation went well. There were 22 ladies and 1 man there. I just received an Email asking me to become program chairman of our orchid club. I dread where this is leading.

Jim
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Mar 18, 2014 1:40 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
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Thumbs up Sounds like you did an awesome job! smily:
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Mar 18, 2014 1:57 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
That one cuts both ways, for sure Jim. It's a compliment, but it comes with SO much work and pressure. Let me say "Congratulations, but don't do it!"

At some point even Super Volunteers need to stop putting up their hands and saying 'yes'.

You do so much as a Master Gardener, I am filled with awe and shock at all the presentations you do.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Mar 18, 2014 5:37 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
Birds Master Gardener: Florida Hibiscus Greenhouse Charter ATP Member Garden Photography
Bromeliad Region: Florida Orchids Roses Tropicals Region: United States of America
The reason I like doing presentations is that I always have a story to tell after it is over. For example, the folks at the library today had a plant swap at the end. So this lady goes over to the swap table and comes away with an avocado tree seedling. You can still see the seed cracked open on top of a little dirt in the bottom of the pot. She comes straight over to me and asks what she should do with it. I told her to put it back on the table and pick something else but she would have none of it. I explained how avocado trees do not come true from seed, often do not produce at all and become very large. I suggested she go to a nice nursery that specializes in fruit and get a grafted named tree like a Brogdon. Since the fruit does not ripen on the tree, you need to know when to pick it and you would never know that if you don't know the name. I have had many of calls at the Extension from folks who have a huge tree that doesn't produce and 100 percent of them come from trees raised from seed. Save $20 by planting a seed and then spend $600 to have it cut down and hauled away. When she left, I noticed she still had that seedling with her. Maybe she will remember my advise 20 years from now. Shrug!

Jim
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Mar 18, 2014 6:23 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Good one, Jim!
I didn't realize that. We used to grow small Avocados like that as house plants years ago. Of course, we couldn't plant them outside here in NJ, so they never got big and eventually expired.
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Mar 18, 2014 7:17 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
So right, Jim. The other thing about avo seedlings is that it will take it about 8 years to get big enough to even bloom. Then it needs another avo tree within a block or so to pollinate it. Then you find out if the tree does come true and produces something edible. We always waited until the first fruit dropped from the tree, then picked them as needed and let them ripen on the kitchen counter.

I answered a question on the 'Ask a Question' forum last week from someone about starting an avocado from a seed. Luckily, they accepted my advice to go to a nursery and get a good variety of tree already started so that they might actually get some fruit in 3 or 4 years. They also have alternating years of a big yield and then a small crop, like some citrus and lychees. (my lychee tree is getting ready to have a 'big' year!)

That being said, the wonderful one I planted at our other house had only produced two crops when we moved away from there . . . huge 2lb. 'Choquette' variety, too. Yum. First yield, 9 fruits, second year only set two, third year about 20 or so, fourth year we moved. Argh! I still drive by there to see if that tree is producing.

They are good trees to grow orchids on, though! (just in keeping with the Orchid thread) Mango are supposed to be nice orchid hosts, too. Maybe I'll put all my phals out under the mango tree this year and let nature take its course.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Mar 18, 2014 8:45 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
While I'll agree that all seedlings won't produce the same as the parent, sometimes you get lucky. My avocado (Pinkerton) was grown from a seed I bought from a farm stand that named varieties, and it came true to the parent. I've had good years where I've gotten up to 100 fruit from it. All avocados don't need cross pollination. Depends on the type. Unfortunately, since it is in too small a space, I have to have it heavily pruned every other year, which, along with our weather, has cut production drastically. I mention our weather because, like washing the car, just when it starts to bloom we get a heavy storm that knocks off most of the blossoms. Grumbling
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Mar 19, 2014 8:13 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Back from the Opera! ( Werther) It was great and it is incredible how well can one sing and how long after shooting oneself into the heart…. Smiling
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Mar 19, 2014 8:26 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
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Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 19, 2014 9:29 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
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Wonderful music even if unrealistic!
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Mar 20, 2014 4:21 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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We'll, the original story is sheer genius....
Anyway - I noticed my tiny Stelis ciliolata opening a bunch of teensy spikes.
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Rhyncholaelia digbyana surprised me with a big fat bloom today, normally it blooms in late Spring for me - IF it blooms.
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And a grouping of Sarcoglottis sceptrodes with its green scent of Cilantro.
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Renanthera monachica
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the cute Phragmipedium schlimii opens another bud.
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and Ascofinetia Lionstar with a small blooming attempt this time of year.
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Mar 20, 2014 5:45 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
I'm definitely going to search for that Digbyana. ! Every time I see it I drool!
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Mar 20, 2014 6:17 PM CST
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Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
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Carol, it shouldn't be difficult to locate, it is not rare at all. It seems to grow better mounted for me, in full blast sun.
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Mar 20, 2014 6:51 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
Birds Master Gardener: Florida Hibiscus Greenhouse Charter ATP Member Garden Photography
Bromeliad Region: Florida Orchids Roses Tropicals Region: United States of America
Beautiful show, Ursula. I have found that all Brassavolas (or former Brassavolas) do better mounted and the more sun you afford them, the better they bloom. My Sarcoglottis has yet to put up a spike so I'll have to bring her in here to see yours. Very nice flower on your Renanthera monachica. I have never tried to grow one. Very cute Phrag but I'll have to admire yours from afar.

I'll be over to the USF Botanical Gardens tomorrow to help set up for a big orchid auction this weekend. Unfortunately, I'll have to miss the Saturday morning bidding as I am involved in a nursing home singalong. Also of note is the following weekend when Greenfest will be at the University of Tampa. There will be plant vendors from all over the state selling their goods there and I am the first speaker on Saturday at 10:00 AM. They usually have four or five orchid vendors.

Jim
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Mar 20, 2014 8:31 PM CST
Name: Carol
Santa Ana, ca
Sunset zone 22, USDA zone 10 A.
Bookworm Charter ATP Member Region: California Hummingbirder Orchids Plant Identifier
Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge)
Ursula, I checked , and Andy's has it on their site. If I pre order, they will bring it to the Spring garden Show in April, thus saving me shipping.
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Mar 21, 2014 6:13 AM CST
Moderator
Name: Ursula
Fair Lawn NJ, zone 7a
Orchids Plumerias Cactus and Succulents Region: New Jersey Region: Pennsylvania Native Plants and Wildflowers
Greenhouse Ponds Keeper of Koi Forum moderator Lover of wildlife (Black bear badge) Adeniums
Jim, lots of stuff going on there! Perhaps there will be some shopping…. Smiling

Carol, Thumbs up sounds good!

I will post the whole Renanthera monachica, when more buds are open. This Renanthera is truly very well manageable size-wise, the plant itself is only ca 8 - 10 inches high and blooms easily on a nicely branched spike. And it seems to like it warm.
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Mar 21, 2014 5:30 PM CST
Name: Jim Hawk
Odessa, Florida (Zone 9b)
Birds Master Gardener: Florida Hibiscus Greenhouse Charter ATP Member Garden Photography
Bromeliad Region: Florida Orchids Roses Tropicals Region: United States of America
I spent most of the afternoon helping set up for the orchid auction tomorrow. There are about 250 plants and most of them look very nice. Elaine? Melanie?

Jim
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Mar 21, 2014 7:16 PM CST
Name: Elaine
Sarasota, Fl
The one constant in life is change
Amaryllis Tropicals Multi-Region Gardener Orchids Master Gardener: Florida Irises
Herbs Region: Florida Vegetable Grower Daylilies Birds Cat Lover
Ohh, it's painful to say, I have two people coming to visit tomorrow and can't see myself breaking away for a drive to Tampa.
Elaine

"Success is stumbling from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm." –Winston Churchill
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Mar 21, 2014 9:17 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA

Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Dog Lover Region: Northeast US Orchids Irises
Enjoys or suffers cold winters
Thanks for the size info on the Renanthera, Ursula. I was just about to ask. I had a giant one but after it croaked, I decided to only get a little one next time and then never knew which were the little ones...maybe one in my future.
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Mar 22, 2014 7:28 PM CST
central Illinois
Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Hosted a Not-A-Raffle-Raffle Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Plant Identifier Garden Ideas: Level 2
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Avid Green Pages Reviewer Photo Contest Winner: 2014 Photo Contest Winner: 2017
Some orchids from a recent local show in Springfield, Il. Not always the finest pics, but ...
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