Clematis forum: Double white clem

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Name: Angie
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Hemophobic
Apr 28, 2014 11:57 AM CST
Okay, y'all. I bought a clematis at Lowe's labeled as Hyde Hall, but it has a smaller double bloom on it. The others had large, single
white blooms. I know this isn't Hyde Hall, but what other clems have small white blossoms?

Thanks a bunch!


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Name: Debra
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lovemyhouse
Apr 28, 2014 12:25 PM CST
When you say smaller, do you have an approximate measurement of the bloom you want to identify? Is it pure white or tinted with pink or green? What color are the anthers? A photograph would be even better. Smiling

Some smaller double whites for comparison:
Duchess of Edinburgh
Huldine
John Huxtable
Lemon Chiffon
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Apr 28, 2014 2:15 PM CST
My first thought was the montana grandiflora. See if the attached photo is a match. If so, allow PLENTY of room for it to ramble and only prune immediately after flowering.
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For the sake of comparison, here it is with Pink Champagne.

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This is just one montana grandiflora but it spread to both ends of the 16' fence and around each corner by 4'.
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Name: Angie
Concord, NC (zone 7)
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Hemophobic
Apr 28, 2014 5:44 PM CST
Here are 2 photos of the bloom. It is about 3 1/2" in diameter.
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Hope this helps. Thanks ever so much!
I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace

Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Apr 28, 2014 5:47 PM CST
Ow, wow, that looks to me like Arctic Queen. My absolute favorite clematis--and the one I killed last year and can't replace! Sticking tongue out

Clematis (Clematis Arctic Queen™)
https://www.google.com/search?q=arctic+queen+clematis&client...
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Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Apr 28, 2014 6:09 PM CST
Sorry, I missed the part about it being a double.

Then I'm down to Duchess of Edinburgh.


Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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lovemyhouse
Apr 28, 2014 6:16 PM CST
Looks very similar, doesn't it. Thumbs up
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Name: Anna
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canadanna
Apr 28, 2014 7:38 PM CST
This year my Belle of Woking is very small and white.
Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Apr 29, 2014 8:08 AM CST
I think Belle is more affected by weather. Warm springs give more silvery-lavender blooms...at least they do here.
Name: Angie
Concord, NC (zone 7)
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Hemophobic
Apr 29, 2014 9:21 AM CST
Arlene:

I'm thinking it might be your Duchess of Edinburgh. The photos of it look more like it than Arctic Queen,
which would be rare for a nursery here to be offering. I just hate it when this happens! Glare
I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace

Name: Arlene
Southold, Long Island, NY (Zone 7a)
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pirl
Apr 29, 2014 3:10 PM CST
I hate it as well but it does happen.

When the Duchess first opens it is super glorious so be overjoyed with it.
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Name: Suzanne/Sue
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Apr 29, 2014 4:07 PM CST

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Duchess of Edinburgh was my first thought too. Thumbs up
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