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May 7, 2014 10:09 AM CST
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Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
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The leaves do look like it but the inner side of the flower bract is red-pinkish instead of the usual cream-white like seen on the web..
I photographed it in a front garden of Rio de Janeiro town, the plant was towering high above my head and I couldn't get more details..
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May 7, 2014 10:12 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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It really does look like P. bipinnatifidum, leaves stems etc. I wonder if the red-tinged flower bract could be due to age, growing area, conditions etc.?
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May 7, 2014 10:52 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Could it be Monstera deliciosa (synonym is Philodendron pertusum)?
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May 7, 2014 10:58 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Thanks Lin, I think you're right, growing conditions can cause minor differences, but I wanted to make sure as I am not that familiar (yet) with tropical plants!

No Tee, definitely not a Monstera delisiosa, the leave shape doesn't match. Smiling
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May 7, 2014 11:00 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
So I see. Thumbs up
I garden for the pollinators.
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May 7, 2014 11:06 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
Looks like you can mark this one Solved. Thumbs up
I garden for the pollinators.
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May 7, 2014 12:06 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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I wonder if it could be a very mature form of Thaumatophyllum xanadu

Scroll down this page at Exotic Rainforest website and look at the spathe photo: http://www.exoticrainforest.co...

I copied this from the exoticrainforest info in the above link: "The spathe of Philodendron xanadu is dark violet-purple bordering on red and the differences in the spathes of Philodendron xanadu and Philodendron bipinnatifidum indicate to a scientist this is positively a species and is not a cultivar."
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May 7, 2014 2:24 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Thanks Lin for the link to that interesting article, but I doubt it could be Philodendron xanadu, the size of that plant is up to 4 ft ( 1.20m), (according to our database). The plant in Rio was really huge. The leaves of Philodendron xanadu also look more flat and much more deeply cut especially with the mature plant in the link, they do perfectly match though with Philodendron bipinnatifidum.
I see what you mean with the red coloured spathe of P. xanadu but that is on the outside, the red on mine is on the inside of the spathe, the outside is green .. so I think we better stay with Philodendron bipinnatifidum.. Smiling
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May 7, 2014 4:13 PM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
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LOL, after looking more closely at photo's I see what you mean and I agree that it's more than likely P. bipinnatifidum!
~ I'm an old gal who still loves playing in the dirt!
~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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May 8, 2014 4:49 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
I found out that Philodendron speciosum is a perfect match, colour of spathe included! Smiling
http://www.htbg.com/search.php...
http://www.tropicsphere.com/ma...
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May 8, 2014 5:25 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
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Great site Myriam! The Philodendron was a looong way down the page so I enlarged it ..

http://www.htbg.com/Araceae/PH...

I'm surprised how many undetermined species there are in the family on that site being a botanical garden!
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May 8, 2014 5:35 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
That is beautiful! I bought one at a plant sale here but it was incorrectly tagged. Glad to have the correct ID.
I garden for the pollinators.
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May 8, 2014 5:42 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Thanks Janet, I stumbled upon that site trying to identify Philodendrons I photographed in the rainforest.
(I don't know how you enlarged it?)

Yes, there are an amazing number of undetermined Philodendrons and other Araceae members!

I think I should ask for a parent page in the database.. Rolling my eyes.
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May 8, 2014 5:43 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Nice Tee you now got the right Id for your plant!
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May 8, 2014 5:49 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
Charter ATP Member Garden Sages Plant Identifier I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! I helped plan and beta test the plant database. Avid Green Pages Reviewer
I helped beta test the Garden Planting Calendar Garden Ideas: Master Level Cat Lover Birds Region: Tennessee Echinacea
I agree
I garden for the pollinators.
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May 8, 2014 7:03 AM CST
Name: Janet Super Sleuth
Near Lincoln UK
Bee Lover Plant Identifier Organic Gardener Dragonflies I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Charter ATP Member
Cat Lover Garden Photography Butterflies Birds Spiders!
bonitin said:(I don't know how you enlarged it?)


I clicked on the photo Myriam. Smiling
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May 8, 2014 7:12 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Myriam Vandenberghe
Ghent, Belgium (Zone 8a)
Bee Lover Organic Gardener Native Plants and Wildflowers Frogs and Toads Ferns I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Charter ATP Member Cat Lover Birds Plant Identifier
Thank You!
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May 8, 2014 7:40 AM CST
Name: Lin Vosbury
Sebastian, Florida (Zone 10a)

Region: Ukraine Region: United States of America Bird Bath, Fountain and Waterfall Region: Florida Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database!
Million Pollinator Garden Challenge Birds Butterflies Bee Lover Hummingbirder Container Gardener
Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! for the correct ID! It sure is a beauty and it will be great to have additional photo's in the database! Thaumatophyllum speciosum
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~ Playing in the dirt is my therapy ... and I'm in therapy a lot!


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