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Name: Lynn
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valleylynn
May 20, 2014 8:59 PM CST

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Time to look at Sempervivum 'Ohio Burgandy'.
Everyone put your sleuth hats on and take a look at the entries in our database. Also look at Peter's site, SMG and any other place that sells this semp. Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Ohio Burgundy')
Hen and Chicks (Sempervivum 'Ohio Burgundy')
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 20, 2014 10:43 PM CST
Lynn,
Are you thinking some of those are not velvety enough?
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webesemps
May 20, 2014 11:01 PM CST
I got mine from Perennial O and they look very similar to the ones in our database and to the one pictured on SMG...
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 20, 2014 11:41 PM CST

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The first and last photos in the group don't look velvety. But I can't tell if it is just the photo. Julia what does you Ohio Burgundy look like now?
@Lilydaydreamer could you get us a better close up of yours?

I very well could just be the photo. Smiling
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goldfinch4
May 21, 2014 12:49 AM CST

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The leaves also look longer and more narrow on the 1st and last picture.
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banker07
May 21, 2014 2:22 AM CST
I agree
1st and last picture look different....

but 'Ohio Burgundy' is very changeable;

if a plant grows quickly and with much water the leaves may become longer and the plants look more open - the velevety of 'Ohio Burgundy' isn't steady;

I think we need more and newer photos of that clones;

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Name: Lisa Klette
Dayton, KY (Zone 6a)
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Lilydaydreamer
May 21, 2014 4:39 AM CST
I am too much a newbie to offer much help *Blush*
I agree mine looks different but last year I "think" it looked more like the other pictures ( they quadrupled in size since then). I will try to dig out a picture from last year.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 21, 2014 6:44 AM CST

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Hi Lisa. Thanks for coming and helping with this mystery.
Can you tell us when that photo was taken? How long have you had this semp?

Julia how long have you had yours?


Peter those are all great points to consider. Also fertilizing can cause them to look different. Julia it looks like you may have acquired yours recently?
How about you Lisa? Did you get yours recently?

Julia and Lisa, would you take photos of the new offsets when they emerge?
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Cahac
May 21, 2014 9:40 AM CST
Lynn,
my O.B. plant is a really slow grower, oldest 1 in my clump is 3 years old now. has never turned a solid red, just gets a slight tint of red. is starting to get a little more this year. it looks like your pic #4 in database. but has never shown that much red "yet". My 1st pic is a small plant, i took off the clump in April. it does seem to be growing faster and has a couple chicks emerging out. the last pic is a pot of Krebs that is same age and planted couple feet away from the OB clump in same dirt mix.basically same conditions.
and i got mine from Ohio real close to where Mr Schrooki had his nursery business
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this is the clump



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and this is same age Krebs

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Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 21, 2014 10:18 AM CST
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Here is mine. I took 6 photos all were bad. I will try again but it is velvety. I wonder if I got pictures mixed. It could happen! *Blush*
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Name: Julia
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springcolor
May 21, 2014 1:50 PM CST
Took a few more hope this will help.
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Name: Greg Colucci
Seattle WA (Zone 8b)
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gg5
May 21, 2014 3:23 PM CST
Lynn et al the 3rd photo in the database - Patty's first photo, is the only one that doesn't look like what I have.
but Patty's second photo does look right, so @Patty is that the same plant?? Amazing how different it looks if it is!! (I love Ohio Burgundy Lovey dubby )
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 21, 2014 8:05 PM CST

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Julia, that is definitely Ohio Burgundy. The first year I had mine it didn't get much color, but did have the fuzzy texture. Then I almost lost all of the little bit I had because it bloomed out the year I got it. I think I did end up with one or two offsets that survived the blooming cycle.

Greg, Patties first photo is correct, just stressed out for some reason. Sure did a nice job of recovering. Hurray!

Now if we can see a nice close up of Lisa's plant, the mystery can be solved. I'm wondering if the close up will show the fuzzy texture that just isn't showing in the existing photo?
The photo is not very sharp, but it looks like the inner leaves are fuzzy?


Also, how much sun is this Julia and Lisa's OB getting? That can make a very big difference in color.
Name: Lisa Klette
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Lilydaydreamer
May 21, 2014 8:22 PM CST
Mine does have fuzz... I will get a better picture tomorrow. I could not find any pictures of it from last year. Where is is planted it gets strong morning to noon sun then shade rest of day. Hope this helps.

Lisa
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 21, 2014 8:35 PM CST

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They shade can cause it to not attain the same fuzziness or deep red. But in your summer conditions you probably have it placed for greater success at keeping it happy and healthy.
Thank you so much Lisa for helping us with this.
Just goes to show just how different some of these semps can look under different growing conditions.
I look forward to the updated photos. Smiling
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
May 21, 2014 9:23 PM CST
Mine gets full sun, in fact I was thinking of constructing a shade cloth for all the semps that are just settling in the new raised bed.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 21, 2014 9:24 PM CST

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I sure doesn't hurt to protect the new plants during hot weather.
Name: Julia
Washington State (Zone 7a)
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springcolor
May 21, 2014 9:29 PM CST
It's been dry here for spring, I had to water a bit.
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Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR (Zone 8b)
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valleylynn
May 21, 2014 9:34 PM CST

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Not bad here so far. Drizzly rain twice this last week. And we have rain coming this weekend.
Name: Patty
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Patty
May 21, 2014 11:10 PM CST
Both of my pics on the data base are the same plant. This pic was taken on 3/15 a.m. and I can see the beginnings of the markings on the upper semp.


These 2 were taken on 4/7
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These were taken today, 2 semps from the same clump as the above
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