Orchids forum: Our Orchid blooms in August 2014 and some talk about Nomenclature

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Name: Glen Ingram
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Aug 1, 2014 5:27 AM CST
Edited /attempt of splitting from the July thread: ( by Ursula)
Gleni and Ken started the new thread this month, I moved both posts from the end of the July thread
The thread "Our Orchid blooms in July 2014" in Orchids forum
to our new August thread here:

Glen:
How exhausting. Go away for two weeks and the threads proliferate apace. I need advice on a Vanda. I will wait to the August thread which it is here.

Ken:
Jim, here is the first "installment":

Blc. Mem. Crispin Rosales 'Carmela' AM/AOS
Blc. Ports of Paradise 'Gleneyrie's Green Giant' FCC/AOS
Blc. Haiku Dawn 'Sunshine and Raspberries'
Blc. Abbeville 'Golden Promise'
Blc. Saint Catherine's Creek 'Kasai'
Blc. Hawaiian Passion 'Carmela'
Blc. Mystic Lady 'Lime Morning'

Thanks again.

And, since we like to see a pretty icon in the thread line up, here is my Lc Love Knot in bloom right now.
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Aug 1, 2014 7:00 AM CST

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And there are a couple more things blooming right now, this one is Stenocoryne aureofulva. I took it inside to take some pictures.
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And the silly Bulbophyllum tremulum with its tiny hairy brushes trembling in the slightest breeze.
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Both Orchids like to bloom in the warm Summer for me.

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terrafirma
Aug 1, 2014 8:05 AM CST
Wow, Ursula! That Bulbophyllum tremulum is "fun"! Tiny 'hairbrushes'! Haven't seen anything like that before. Very cute! Smiling
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Aug 1, 2014 8:11 AM CST
I love the Bulb. tremulum, Ursula.
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hawkarica
Aug 1, 2014 9:13 AM CST
Ken, the latest names of your plants are as follows:

Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Memoria Crispin Rosales
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Ports of Paradise
Rhynchobrassoleya [Rby.] Haiku Dawn
Rhyncattleanthe [Rth.] Abbeville
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Saint Catherine's Creek
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Hawaiian Passion
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Mystic Lady

Also, Your pretty Lc. Love Knot is now a straight Cattleya [C]

Ursula, nice start to the new thread. I love the Bulbophyllum tremulum too!

Jim
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dyzzypyxxy
Aug 1, 2014 9:24 AM CST
I agree Sweet little hair brushes. Lovely Love Knot, too.

Finally the first tiny flower on my Epi. magnoliae open this morning. Difficult lighting with bright sun peeking through the oak branches, so I will try again in the evening. The flowers are exquisite tiny (about a cm.) classic orchid shapes, with slightly tinged pink petals and an ivory lip. Fragrance is not happening yet, but last year was fantastic for such tiny flowers.
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drdawg
Aug 1, 2014 9:25 AM CST
Thank you, Jim. That was fast. When you have time (there is no rush on any of these) here is the next group:

Blc. Karbela Beauty 'Song of Canary'
Blc. Everything Nice 'Show Time'
Blc. Chinese Beauty 'Orchid Queen'
Blc. Hunabu Victory 'Brenda Havenor' HCC/AOS
Blc. Hawaiian Lightning 'Fiesta'
Blc. Mem. Anna Balmores 'Convex'
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Ursula
Aug 1, 2014 9:53 AM CST

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Thanks!
Cattleya Love Knot it is.
Regarding the re-naming - actually some things got easier. I no longer have to remember which of my vandaceous Orchids is an Ascda or a Vanda. Smiling Vanda is just fine. I would still recoil at calling my beloved Neofinetia a Vanda though.

Elaine, the Epi. magnoliae is adorable!
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hawkarica
Aug 1, 2014 10:00 AM CST
I'm stuck here doing laundry so I have some time. The next group is as follows:

Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Karbela Beauty
Rhynchobrassoleya [Rby.] Everything Nice
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Chinese Beauty
Rhyncattleanthe [Rth.] Hunabu Victory
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Hawaiian Lightning
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Memoria Anna Balmores

For those who are watching this, note that so far, every name Ken has sent me has been changed. This is not so important to the average orchid fancier but it you are in the business, like Ken, or if you want to enter your plants for judging, like I sometimes do, you have to know the correct name of the plant and both of the parents. You should also know that the tag that comes with your newly purchased plant may not be up to date.

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drdawg
Aug 1, 2014 10:39 AM CST
Jim, you are exactly right. In my opinion and experience, very, very few commercial sellers have changed any of their labels and thus those tags that are sent along with orchids are incorrect. I actually called two of the large, commercial growers/hybridizers (in Hawaii) and they both told me they could not take the time and did not want to spend the money changing their hundreds or thousands of labels to reflect the name change. They were both very upfront with me about that. Basically they said: "If you want to have the correct name on the labels, you will have to do it yourself".

You must have a wonderful program at hand to give me the correct names so quickly. I do greatly appreciate your effort. IF you are still in the laundry-mode, here are a few more (I warned you I had a lot of varieties! LOL):

Blc. Glenn Maidment 'Aranbeem'
Blc. Lawless Zauberflote 'Carmela'
Blc. Yonges Island 'Newberry'
Blc. Edisto 'Mendenhall' AM/AOS
Blc. Yen Corona 'Green Genie'
Blc. Owen Holmes 'Encore'

Thank You!
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hawkarica
Aug 1, 2014 11:12 AM CST
No problem. The white clothes are in now and the sheets and towels are drying.

Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Glenn Maidment
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Lawless Zauberflote
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Yonges Island
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Edisto
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Yen Corona
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Owen Holmes

I'm just using OrchidWiz to knock these out.

Jim
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Aug 1, 2014 12:57 PM CST
Mom came running at me with a tag today asking me what kind of orchid she had. And I said, "Apparently a cattleya mixed with a cattleya." She said it had four buds on it but what caught my eye is one of the parents was 'Penny Kuroda' which of course, has been such a star for Ursula in the last few weeks. Should be interesting to see what Mom's cross looks like.
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Aug 1, 2014 1:34 PM CST
Jim, this is the last of the Blc. I apologize for having so many. *Blush*

Blc. Ports of Paradise 'Emerald Isle' FCC/AOS
Blc. Greenwich 'Elmhurst' AM/AOS
Blc. Mahina Yahiro x C. Ruth Gee 'Diamond Jubilee' FCC/AOS (Has this been renamed or is it still shown as this cross?)
Blc. Zul (C. Skinneri x Blc. Orange Nugget)
Blc. Meditation 'King's Ransom' x Blc. Xanthette 'Chartreuse' (same question as the 'Diamond Jubilee')
Blc. Haiku Elf 'Mini Purple'
Blc. Golden Emperor 'Valley Isle' AM/AOS
Blc. Exotic Emerald 'Sunset Affair'
Blc. Pauwela Dawn 'Tiger Butter' AM/AOS

Jim, does Rhyn. exist, an abbreviation for Rhyncholaeliocattleya?
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Aug 1, 2014 2:47 PM CST
Ken, looks like Jim is folding laundry, but I think Rhyn. is the abbreviation for Rhyncholaelia, . . or maybe Rhynchovola?
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hawkarica
Aug 1, 2014 3:18 PM CST
The short answer to your last question is no. Rhyn is not an orchid abbreviation. Rhy. is as close as you can get but it stands for Rhynchostylis. When they combine two or three genera together the abbreviation tends to come from all three, not just the first of the series. Also of note is when they combine more that three genera together, they do not form these multi-letter words like Brassolaeliocattleya but rather chose a word that ends in "ara". For example, a Brassavola X Cattleya X Laelia X Schomburgkia X Sophronitis is a Fergusonara. Another example is Potinara, which is the name of a hybrid of orchids which have Brassavola, Cattleya, Laelia and Sophronitis as parent genera.

Now, back to your request:

Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Ports of Paradise
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Greenwich
Rhyncattleanthe [Rth.] Zul

I'll get the rest later tonight as I have to dash off to a funeral.

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Aug 1, 2014 3:21 PM CST

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Melanie, should be fun to see what you have budding there!
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Aug 1, 2014 6:34 PM CST
I'm back.

Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Exotic's Summer Cloud (Rlc. Mahina Yahiro x C. Ruth Gee)
(Rlc. Meditation Rock x Rlc. Xanthette) is not registered
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Haiku Elf
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Golden Emperor
Rhyncholaeliocattleya [Rlc.] Exotic Emerald
Rhynchobrassoleya [Rby.] Pauwela Dawn

That's it.

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Aug 1, 2014 7:09 PM CST
Jim, I'm thinking that Rhy digbyana is therefore in each of the above x's and the Laelia has to be a Mexican type because the Brazilian Laelias are now Catts. And some of those above have l purpurata, and other Brazilian ones, so the L should be dropped because they are in fact Catt.
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Aug 1, 2014 7:36 PM CST
Oh Please, Roberta, don't confuse us more! Hilarious! Jim's Orchidwhiz probably hasn't had time to update.
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Aug 1, 2014 8:20 PM CST
OK, I admit it, I am dumb and don't understand why the Blc. Mahina Yahiro x C. Ruth Gee 'Diamond Jubilee', which according to my label is FCC/AOS, would not be registered. An FCC not registered!? It is practically impossible to find this plant and when I take divisions, they are sold immediately, with a waiting list for more divisions. Please explain this registration protocol or lack of.

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