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Oct 6, 2014 8:16 PM CST
Name: seaecho
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Yes, I also rooted a ZZ plant, and now have two ZZ plants instead of one! It rooted easily, which is unusual for me. I have a Bonnie that doesn't have much curl at all. Its in an area where it gets good light, but no sun in summer, but a little afternoon sun in fall and winter. Doesn't seem to matter--it stays the same regardless of the amount of light. Also, I forget to water it sometimes for two weeks (its in a 4" pot) and that doesn't affect the curl either. So I guess I'm stuck with a mostly uncurly Bonnie! Its still cute.

As for orchids, I had my go round with them. I had all kinds, and it was getting ridiculously expensive. I think orchids cost more than just about any other houseplant I can think of. I grew phals, oncidiums, miltonias, paphs, cattleyas, brassias, phrags (I can't remember them all) and crosses of these. I re-bloomed quite a few, and got blooms off some that I'd gotten as pretty small babies, that hadn't bloomed before. But that was only twice! Most of the others eventually died. I had some for many years with no blooms. I still have ten left, and only about four of those bloom for me. Phals, especially, are fussy. They are either blooming their little heads off for you, or sulking. And when they sulk, they REALLY sulk! They can sit there for months, doing absolutely nothing, and certainly not growing. And if you water them too often JUST ONCE they can keel over and die on you in a heartbeat. They rot super easy. When my last one died, I gave up on them. The cattleya and their crosses are a lot tougher, and can take quite a bit of sun. But, on the whole, I found myself just throwing money down the drain with orchids. I have a psychopsis papilio (look them up--they're fascinating) that bloomed for me many times, but hasn't bloomed once in the last 6-7 years. I've probably had it for ten years. No idea why it just stopped blooming, as I haven't changed its care.

I never realized there were solid green Bonnies. I've only seen the larger solid green spiders. And I agree spiders are easy to care for. I often forget to water my big hanging one for a month, and it still looks great and is sending out pups.
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Oct 6, 2014 8:50 PM CST

Seaecho,
I also have a 'Bonnie' baby that really hasn't gotten anymore curly in more light either. So far it looks as uncurly as it did in less light. Hilarious! So, you're not alone!

Wow, I didn't know that Phals were so fussy. That makes me feel better. I have had the sulking experiences with a few of them. I have given up on them. Maybe I should try a cattleya then, they sound more tough.

Planto
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Oct 6, 2014 8:50 PM CST
Name: Gita Veskimets
Baltimore or Nottingham MD-212 (Zone 7a)
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JB--
I will try to post tomorrow. Right now it is bed-time for me....
Will try to get some pictures as well. Gita (the "Friend").....
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Oct 7, 2014 9:54 AM CST
Name: Gita Veskimets
Baltimore or Nottingham MD-212 (Zone 7a)
Life is "mind over matter". If I d
Good morning JB and everyone...

First--I need to post a disclaimer. I do not know much of anything about kinds and names
of spider plants. I just have them--they grow--I water as needed--if a baby falls off--I root it--
and so my cache multiplies.
They spend the summers--in my z-7a--outside--(as do ALL my houseplants) mostly under the cover
of my high patio roof. The HB hang from the edge of the patio roof anf get dapples AM sun that filters
through the branches of a Red maple. mostly, I would say, there is very bright shade.

My smaller, potted Spider plants are in different sized pots on a 5' rack against the house.
These also do not get any direct sun--but the lighting is ideal for houseplants.

JB has asked me to comment on my Spider plant "Bonnie'. I have had this one for about 6-7 years.
My big "Mama Bonnie" grows in a 12" HB. I know it is VERY root bound--but it seems to thrive
regardless. Perhaps this provides the "stressed out" aspect of what you all were talking about.
I water it when it seems to start drooping a bit. I never fertilize it. I think the last time I re-potted it
was about 3 years ago ??...Before that--it grew in a 10" HB. I DO use "Osmacote" when I re-pot plants.

It makes a lot of babies--some are even hard to see as they are "lost" in the foliage.
I sent JB a pile of them this summer. Plucked them off of Mama--and it almost made no difference.

JB has been good to me too--sharing her HolidaHactus. I don't mind helping her out.

OK! I did take a lot of pictures for you all to see. Not sure how to add comments to my pictures.
But--I will do my best....


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Oct 7, 2014 10:06 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Spider plants make a good backdrop for my noid dendrobiums that are hopefully due to bloom soon!

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Spider plants softens the view for my orchid growcamp: Smiling

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Oct 7, 2014 10:07 AM CST
Name: Gita Veskimets
Baltimore or Nottingham MD-212 (Zone 7a)
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The above pictures show the Bonnie Spider plant and where it hangs
as well as the rack the all the smaller, potted spiders live on. All kinds.
Note in picture #3 that there is a small bunch of white leaves growing. May be just a quirk..
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I only have three kinds of Spider plants. The Curly--one that is all green with a bit wider leaves (?)
and a regular variegated one. It looks better in the smaller potted ones, The HB must be very root-bound.

In this series of pictures below I will show you the green-leafed one. What kind is this? Anyone?
On pic. #2 you will notice the new babies forming are almost white--or very pale green.
Something of this order was mentioned in one of the posts above in this Thread.
The babies being a lighter color.


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Oct 7, 2014 10:09 AM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Oh I love your set-up there Gita! Lovey dubby Lovey dubby
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Oct 7, 2014 10:37 AM CST
Name: Gita Veskimets
Baltimore or Nottingham MD-212 (Zone 7a)
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Then I have a straight-leafed, variegated Spider plant.
The leaves on this one are green inside--and white-stripe on the outside edges.
It is pretty--and has a dainty look.
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And lastly--I wanted to show you my "Swedish Ivy"--which I have had for about 25 or more years.
I have continued to propagate it from cuttings. Easy-Peesy! Roots right into the soil in a week ar two.

Here is the "secret" to growing full, lush Swedish Ivies. Place THREE cuttings in each finger-hole
in your new pots. As these start to grow out--pinch them all at least twice. This will give you a really
full plant.
And--here is how many bunches of 3 cuttings you need to put in different size pots
to grow a really full plant:
4" pots----2-3
6" pots----4
8" pots----5
10" pots---7
12" pots--11

Ppicture #4 shows a tray-full of Swedish Ivy starts in 4" pots this past June.
They NEVER wilt--just grow roots and march on. These are rooted--but not pinchedd yet.

Picture #5 shows you where all my Spider HB spend the winter--hanging inside near a window t
that does not really have any good light--as the patio roof is right outside of it.

That's all, JB. If you have any other questions I will be glad to post again. Gita


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Oct 7, 2014 10:53 AM CST

Gita,
The one in question that is green with lighter colored babies looks like 'Hawaiian' to me.

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Oct 7, 2014 11:14 AM CST
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Plantomaniac08 said:JB,
Sounds like a lot for a plant, but then again... I'm cheap!

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Oct 7, 2014 11:17 AM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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tarev said:In our common area here,along the pathways, this plant reminds me also of spider plants..but it is Liriope, when in bloom it has bloom stalks with purplish flowers.


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That is the one I have on my old stump. The flowers are purplish/blue to me. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 7, 2014 11:39 AM CST
Thread OP
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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@gitagal as always your input and pictures are perfect.
I know you don't really care, Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing but I think I can help you out with the names of your spiders. The one with the green inside and the creamy/white edge is called a Chlorophytum comosum 'Varigatum' or years ago we called it a Reverse Variegated spider. Now we are being correct. Rolling on the floor laughing It really does not matter as long as you love and care for it, which of course you do..you are correct, it has a "dainty" look....the leaves are thinner and more as we would say in the horse business...."a fine quality". They also show you quickly if they need to be watered.
The regular spider with the white center stripe and green edges is called a Chlorophytum conosum 'Variegatum'. this is what most people consider the most popular and the regular spider plant.
Lastly, that green one certainly looks like a Hawaiian or as we now know also is called Golden Glow, and I think if the babies are variegated when they are little, that would be the one way, as I have been told, you can be sure it is Hawaiian. The babies turn green as they get older. I hope this helps.
I do thank you , my friend, for the wonderful pictures and information you have shared with us. I know everyone here also appreciates it. I do hope you keep coming back and checking on us. If I need you in the meantime, I will certainly YELL.
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Oct 7, 2014 12:47 PM CST
Name: Gita Veskimets
Baltimore or Nottingham MD-212 (Zone 7a)
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Tarev---

Thanks for liking my set-up. You know--when there is no more room for horizontal--
I go to vertical.
The bigger rack outside is really nice and sturdy. Just bought it this summer (for my plants)
from IKEA. $50--but seems worth it. I am fortunate to live 5 minutes from an IKEA.
You have to assemble it, of course.


Planto--

If you think all my plain green one with the lighter babies is the "Hawaiian"--
then all the plain green ones must be also. As they are all from one source.
If you look closely--there is a lighter shading down the center of the leaves.
NOT exactly a stipe--but visibly lighter.

JB--

Thank you for the names. If you ever want some babies from the all green one--
(Hawaiian????) there are plenty as you can see. Just LMK.
Hugs, Gita
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Oct 7, 2014 1:05 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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I go vertical too Gita!!! Love Ikea! I get some interesting plants there too at times Big Grin
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Oct 7, 2014 1:27 PM CST

Gita,
Oh okay. In that case, it sounds like you're surrounded by a bunch of 'Hawaiian'(s)!. Hilarious! That's not a common one in stores, so you have a nice plant (I should say plants) there.

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Oct 7, 2014 1:43 PM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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@gitagal, thanks for the offer. If I have any problem with mine or they sell too fast, I will be in touch. Your the best. BTW, did you see my Pinterest Boards...I meant to tell you about them and I can't remember if I did. Forgive my Senior Moment if I did but here is the link to all the boards and then you can go from there. There is some other stuff you may get a kick out of.
I am pretty sure the others on here saw it...at least I think so....I spend too much time on too many places to remember what I put where. Sorry about that. http://www.pinterest.com/JBsPl...

OFF TOPIC:
Anyone know how to get rid of a PITA fox? This guy is driving me crazy. We caught him on tape and he is a big sucker. Makes Charle crazy at night...WE have strick laws here in NJ about even trapping them. If you use coyote urine it draws more coyotes to your place. I am in a no win situation here I am afraid.

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Oct 7, 2014 3:33 PM CST
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Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey (Zone 6b)

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Here is my Liriope (is that what you call it?) Never know where it came from but I think it was one of the plants we inherited from Princeton Nurseries when my SIL was VP there. He used to bring home things they threw away. He and I are much alike when it comes to discarding living plants.

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Oct 7, 2014 5:14 PM CST
Name: tarev
San Joaquin County, CA (Zone 9b)
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Yup! that's the one JB Smiling
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Oct 7, 2014 7:03 PM CST
Name: seaecho
Phelan, Ca. (Zone 8b)
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I love the "Creeping Charlies" as they are called here. That pic is just lovely! I love the way they smell for some reason. Nothing else I've ever smelled, smells like it! I used to be able to grow them like crazy, but the last few times I got one, it croaked, and the care was exactly the same. The "Big Mama" Bonnie is HUGE! And so healthy looking! (All the spiders on this thread are). Love the Liriope too! Beautiful plant.

Oh and don't be afraid of the fox, JB. They are very retiring creatures, and do not normally attack humans unless they have hydrophobia or something. They are mainly looking for a chicken or other small free meal. They are so small that they couldn't do much damage to a human who has a good kick, even if they were inclined to bite a human, which they are not. They only weigh about 29 lbs. They are much more afraid of us than we are of them, as the old saying goes. Its true.
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Oct 7, 2014 8:43 PM CST

I picked up this little guy today.



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