Adeniums forum: Developing seedpod watch

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Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Nov 24, 2014 2:10 PM CST
There is a British gentleman living in Venezuela who has been breeding Adeniums for many years. On his facebook page, he complained that he'd bought some of Mr. Ko's seeds of "Miracle" which is very similar to "Triple Santa Claus", and the resulting plants finally bloomed and the flowers disappointed him.

I have several triple and double Santa plants, so I went and started doing some pollinating so I could send him some seeds. When Mr. Ko advertises seeds, the pictures have to be of two parents to give good results for flowers. A flower, say a double, is pollinated with its' own pollen, and not that of another completely different plant, the offspring usually reverts back to a simpler, disappointing flower.

I have been posting the resulting pods' growth, so I should share the photos here, hey?

The two flowers on the pollination day-- "Double Santa Claus",and "Triple Santa Claus" Date is recorded on the image. I cut a little hole in the paper and put the bigger flower in it, and the other flower is still on the plant, with the paper having a cut all the way to the edge. ???
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Growing quickly, and another smaller pod pair. (Warm morning sunlight)
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The pods changing position and shape, starting to bend downwrd.. The light is from the flash, what you call a cooler color. I prefer sunlight. The flowers are battered and bruised from wind and a hard rain. My plants don't like their new home very much. You can see the undeveloped pods that this plant is making all the time, not fertilized, but podlings that don't grow. I will cut them off soon. And at the bottom, what I call Adenium weeds. Little plants with minute white flowers that I've seen growing in folk's pots from all over the world! Adenium weeds. Click the picture to see the weeds, do you have them?
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OK, all for now, more as we go. They will be ripe in another three months?

Name: Hetty
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Dutchlady1
Nov 24, 2014 2:28 PM CST
I do also have 'Adenium weed' but here we call it 'Weed'. It's not limited to Adeniums I'm afraid....
Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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kareoke
Dec 2, 2014 7:33 AM CST
Melissa I will take some pictures of my pods after lunch, I cannot believe that there are so many on my one very large plant, I do not think they will all mature in fact I would have to many seeds to get rid of Rolling my eyes.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Dec 2, 2014 10:57 AM CST
Seeds can get to be a problem!! Rolling on the floor laughing
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
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coconut
Dec 2, 2014 11:48 AM CST
,Have you ever had this?
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Babies are tiny, and like to ruin flowers
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I don't have a photo of the moth, a late afternoon visitor. Dark blue body with red wings, flies slowly enough that I can hand-catch them. Ugh.
And these!!! sucking bugs, ugh again
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A dead one, you can see the probiscus, "mouth" that can penetrate a pod and such out the juice of the green seeds.
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Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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kareoke
Dec 2, 2014 12:51 PM CST
Oh WOW never seen any and don't wish too either.
OK I just took pictures these seed pods are all on my large plant, some are hard to see as they are buried in the stems and leaves.

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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Dec 2, 2014 3:25 PM CST
Yeah I get those orange guys Grumbling
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Dec 4, 2014 1:47 PM CST
The damage those orange and other sucking type bugs looks like:

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Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Dec 8, 2014 12:52 PM CST
Remember that fuzzy orange caterpillar, posted earlier in this thread? Here's what the moth looks like. A really good photo if I might say so...
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
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Dutchlady1
Dec 8, 2014 2:09 PM CST
It is indeed. They have been hanging around here a lot too lately Grumbling
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Dec 9, 2014 11:11 AM CST
I can catch them with my hand! But to sqush them is nasty, but necessary. Don't want them flying away!!!

A seedling, the newer bloom on the right has veining. I like that. Sometimes plants chang a bit with maturity.
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Name: Hetty
Sunny Naples, Florida (Zone 10a)
Plumerias Photo Contest Winner: 2015 Charter ATP Member I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Garden Ideas: Master Level Plant Database Moderator
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Dutchlady1
Dec 9, 2014 1:13 PM CST
I agree, that has promise!
Name: Doris Klene
Greensburg,Indiana.
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kareoke
Dec 14, 2014 7:26 AM CST
Never seen a bug like that.
Melissa if you ever have any seeds for a double I would love to buy some from you, mine are all singles now.
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11+
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coconut
Dec 15, 2014 7:03 AM CST
OK, Doris. It's a crap shoot, though. Double parents sometimes have single babies. I might have some seeds for early sprintime, if those bugs leave me any! I am too busy moving house to take proper care of the plants! Bad me!

The squashed bug, a moth, flies slowly in the late afternoon. Oleander moth, but there aren't any oleanders in your neighborhood, most likely!

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