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Jan 10, 2015 7:03 AM CST
Name: Carole
Clarksville, TN (Zone 6b)
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Jan 10, 2015 9:12 AM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Jan 10, 2015 12:50 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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Patti ...

>>>I've tried everything to keep snakes from finding my garden so homely.

I just researched "brown snakes". OMG, they are as poisonous as the rattlesnakes found in my mountains !

The method I learned from a friend who has lived up here all of her life to deter snakes from my property is to use wood ashes from my wood stove around the perimeter of my property. My friend has four acres and I have only a quarter acre, but neither of us have found a rattlesnake on our properties in years. Yet we both have neighbors that have to deal with snake problems often during the dry months.

Yes, it is a hassle to walk the property and lay down the ashes, but having no snakes makes it worthwhile. I don't know if this would work for brown snakes.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Jan 10, 2015 1:01 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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Oh, Lyn, the trick with the wood ashes is really good to know about! I have a friend in Oregon who has to deal with rattlesnakes and she will love to hear about that! Thumbs up
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Jan 10, 2015 1:36 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
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Woofie ...

The success of this method may depend upon the kind of wood ashes used and how thick a layer of ash is put down. I am burning black and white oak and fir to heat my home.

Remember, they use ashes to make lye soap.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Jan 10, 2015 1:51 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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How thick of an ash line did you lay down?
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Jan 10, 2015 1:53 PM CST
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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I wondered if the lye was what make them effective. I sat a galvanized bucket of ashes from the stove outside to let the embers die down before emptying the bucket, and that night it rained. The lye leaching from the ashes ate holes in the bucket!
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 10, 2015 1:56 PM CST
Name: Debra
Garland, TX (NE Dallas suburb) (Zone 8a)
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Jan 10, 2015 1:58 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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I had wondered about that being a problem, Neal.
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Jan 10, 2015 2:01 PM CST
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Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
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As long as you empty them onto the ground before it gets wet, it's fine. But never a good idea to get wet ashes on your skin though.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi
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Jan 10, 2015 2:06 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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We have a pellet stove. And a bucket on the porch where the "ashes" (more like fine sand) accumulate. I always worry about that bucket getting soaked and the pups getting their noses in it.
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Jan 10, 2015 2:20 PM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
I keep old kettles and metal buckets on my covered patio for a week before I either put them on the ground or in storage to use for rattlesnake control later in the year. The snakes are dormant during the winter months.

As long as the ashes don't get wet while you are waiting to make sure there are no live embers in the bucket/kettle, there is nothing to worry about. A week seems to be sufficient. I've never had a problem with live embers, if I've waited that long. I have two old kettles and one bucket.

I don't use the patio during the winter, so I don't care if the ash containers don't look pretty ... Big Grin

Smiles,
Lyn
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Jan 10, 2015 3:16 PM CST
Name: tk
97478 (Zone 8b)

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This would only work under certain situations, but if you have room for goats, they eat all the underbrush for the snakes to hide in. Haven't seen a snake for years. And, we have 4 poisonous snakes in TX
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Jan 10, 2015 5:04 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA (Zone 5a)
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That's true. We had plenty of rattlesnakes in the area where we lived in Oregon, but we also had a bunch of goats and we never saw a snake anywhere near the house or barn. I've heard that snakes also don't like vibrations (which the goats' little thundering hooves provided a-plenty!) Wonder if those gopher chasers would work for snakes?
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Jan 11, 2015 10:25 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Ford River Twp, Michigan UP (Zone 4b)
(Zone 4b-maybe 5a)
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I've never had to worry about poisonous snakes where I am -- but wood ashes also work great for preventing/getting rid of onion maggots!
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Jan 12, 2015 9:31 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5b
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I have goats and plenty of garden snakes, of course I don't let the goats in the garden or I would not have a garden . Goats like to eat much more than weeds and underbrush Smiling
..a balanced life is worth pursuit.
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Jan 12, 2015 10:07 AM CST
Name: Lyn
Weaverville, California (Zone 8a)
Celebrating Gardening: 2015 Garden Sages Garden Ideas: Level 1
I consider goats to be cougar bait up here ... Smiling

That said, I have a another friend who rents out her goats to private landowners to clear their properties for fuel reduction for wild fire management. She is also a member of the local fire department and has loaned her goats to work on properties which have difficult terrain to clear.

The conservation group uses them to clear stream sides of dense blackberry growth.

If the goats can be protected, they are a fantastic tool.

My property is too small to keep goats.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Jan 12, 2015 11:51 AM CST
Name: Ken Ramsey
Vero Beach, FL (Zone 10a)
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What could be a better use of a "natural" resource! Thumbs up
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Jan 12, 2015 1:26 PM CST
Name: Kabby
Lowndesboro, AL (Zone 8a)
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Welcome! Patti I'm a little late to the party, but I'm glad you joined us, lots of friendly people at ATP.
Neal the Star of Bethlehem just grows wild in your in your yard? I had heard they were invasive and in fact when you pull one up there are clusters of babies left behind. So far for me they aren't are a problem, YET.
Now if anyone wants to talk horsetail rush... Angry
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Jan 12, 2015 2:18 PM CST
Thread OP
Name: Neal Linville
Winchester, KY (Zone 6a)
Bulbs Charter ATP Member Cottage Gardener I was one of the first 300 contributors to the plant database! Irises Roses
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Star of Bethlehem isn't native, but has naturalized with wild abandon here. Its more problematic in the Bluegrass region of KY than than the eastern part of the state. And yes, they do leave behind lots of little bulblets, but often I can get entire clumps out if the soil is moist. It is on Kentucky's list of exotic invasive plants to avoid and eradicate.
"...and don't think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It's quiet, but the roots are down there riotous." Rumi

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