Insect and Bug ID forum: Super sized wasp

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Name: Melanie Long
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mellielong
Jan 4, 2015 2:37 PM CST
My bromeliads are blooming and attracting paper wasps and yellow jackets, as well as honey bees. I've been spraying the wasps. Today, I saw a much bigger type of wasp that had a habit of bending its abdomen as it nectared and I just wondered what it was.

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Here's a shot with a normal bee flying over it so you can compare the size. FYI, the wasp has nearly its entire head down in the flower.

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luvsgrtdanes
Jan 4, 2015 2:45 PM CST
Maybe a Cicada Killer https://www.google.com/search?q=cicada+killer&espv=2&biw=151...
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Jan 4, 2015 2:51 PM CST
Wow. I'm not sure I wanted to know the answer to that question. But in all fairness, I did ask. Now I'm going to have nightmares about that thing. I did kill it, by the way. I know where the body is. Let me go see if I can get a picture of it dead.
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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Jan 4, 2015 3:18 PM CST
Okay, here's some pictures of the corpse. Let me know if you think it's still a Cicada Killer.

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Frillylily
Jan 4, 2015 3:35 PM CST
http://ugatrialgardens.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/killer-bee-m...

I was going to guess a type of hornet, but doing an image search I came up with this.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=+Cicada+Killer+Wasps


http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Ground-Digger-Wasps-%28Cic...
Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Jan 4, 2015 3:44 PM CST
That first link is hilarious, but all are full of good info. I would think January would be a strange time to see one of these, but it is Florida where nothing ever makes sense. I don't often see actual Cicadas in the yard but I see their shells so I know they're around. Never seen one of these before, though! Glad to read that they don't tend to be aggressive unless you bother them. I'll have to look around and see if I can spot any nests I need to deal with. Right now, the only nest I'm worried about is a bunch of fire ants in the backyard.
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flaflwrgrl
Jan 8, 2015 8:29 PM CST
Funny this should come up. I have the same wasps here Melanie & didn't know what they are. They do seem to be quite gentle with humans as I've tried to take close ups of them & they pay me no never mind. I never got a good shot as my camera doesn't take those kind of close ups so great. These wasps are hard to get close ups of that abdomen because they always seem to have it so tucked under like that.
Anyway, now I know what they are. Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
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Name: Melanie Long
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mellielong
Jan 8, 2015 9:50 PM CST
Yay! We're all learning something new!
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LindaTX8
Jan 8, 2015 10:16 PM CST
You might also check the Scoliid wasps. Campsomeris Ephippium is the largest wasp I've seen that comes here, but it's not like yours.
http://bugguide.net/node/view/91
My occasional visitor, C. Ephippium:


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Name: Melanie Long
Lutz, Florida (Zone 9b)
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mellielong
Jan 8, 2015 10:25 PM CST
I feel like I'm at the airport where they play that announcement at the luggage claim telling you to check your tags, "Many bags look alike..." This is why I like butterfly caterpillars. Not only do they vary a lot, you can tell what they are by what they eat. Makes things much simpler! Thanks for the link, Linda!
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flaflwrgrl
Jan 9, 2015 7:09 AM CST
Hummm..... that does throw something in the mix doesn't it? I will have to check very closely next time I see one. This is as hard as ID'ing plants.
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JRsbugs
Jan 9, 2015 8:04 AM CST
There are thousands of wasps which often look simlar, it's unwise to kill them as they do have a purpose. Some take flies for their young, some take bugs according to the species, and some parasitize bugs.

What you have appears to be Campsomeris plumipes.

http://bugguide.net/node/view/39369/bgpage

http://www.americaninsects.net/hy/campsomeris-plumipes.html

These wasps are parasitoids of soil-inhabiting scarab beetle larvae


http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/misc/wasps/scoliid_wasps...

Notice the legs, they are not like a cicada killer's, the eyes are also different. These are very unlikely to sting you.

The form in Florida, Campsomeris plumipes fossulana


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Campsomeris+plumipes+fossu...
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Name: Ann ~Heat zn 9, Sunset
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flaflwrgrl
Jan 9, 2015 11:42 AM CST
I really don't kill any of them except ones who make nests under the porch ceilings & we only kill them then when they get mean to us or the dog. Otherwise it's live & let live.
I am a strong believer in the simple fact is that what matters in this life is how we treat others. I think that's what living is all about. Not what I've done in my life but how I've treated others.
~~ Sharon Brown ~~



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LindaTX8
Jan 10, 2015 1:43 PM CST
Yeah, I don't kill any except when the yellowjackets get troublesome! The species of Campsomeris I posted a pic of is welcome here and I love to have it visit...perfectly harmless, as far as I can tell. I just turn childlike when I spot an interesting species like that, love to watch it nectaring! I've always been a nature-lover!
I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority. E. B.White
Integrity can never be taken. It can only be given, and I wasn't going to give it up to these people. Gary Mowad

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